$2 NLHE Full Ring: $2 NLHE : AA in a wet board

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The handplay is in the URL :
http://www.pokerhandreplays.com/view.php/id/8544316
I am the player 1 and I have AdAh
I know that I have made mistakes, I can't figure out whether I'm defeated or not at flop and turn.
What should I do in such a wet board?
Thanks for answering
( I didn't provide the image of villan because I'm new to the table, that was my second hand)
ps. Sorry for poor English, it isn't my mother language
 
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raise bigger pre.
UTG is a fish limping. Since it's UTG raise around 5BB.
On flop the SB donks. This means that he probably have caught something on flop (hard to tell what exactly, cause people donk for many reasons.)
You shouldn't call here but reraise around 2.5-3. To get a understanding of his hand strength + You have a monster yourself as well.

Then you have to consider if the V caught a J on flop, whether are you beat or not. What are the bluffs he could have on this board? It's very unlikely to bluff here cause someone could have J easily. And of course the donk.
Re-raising turn is pointless.
Fold.
Even then when he 3bets you, it should be very easy to fold.

It's very easy to put the V on a J or better here.
So next time try to analyse the Vs hand strength compared to yours on certain boards. Do not overplay hands.

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Thanks for answering and welcoming:)
I think your advice are really useful and logical.
But I still have some questions.
First, you said that you would raise around 5bb preflop, after thinking, I agree that I should raise a bigger amount, but how does the UTG position influence your bet size?
Second, you wrote about I should re-raise after donk bet from the villan, but why don't we bet a size like 30bb~35bb so that UTG don't have enough pot odds to call.
Thanks a lot, really appreciate your answer.
 
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It's somewhat psychological actually raising bigger when I think about it.
UTGs open range is pretty tight. So when you raise or 3 bet him, it shows that you have a very good hand pre to challenge him.
Simply put you're showing that you are very strong from the beginning.
Specially at 2NL with this kind of little adjustments you can affect their plays a lot.
You win through aggression in poker. Specially stuff that you shouldn't. So it's best to balance that aggression out both in good hands & bad ones.
Theory wise maybe there's something but someone else might explain it better.

I didn't understand the second part. Who bets 30/35B? SB or you when reraising??
 
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Since you wrote that I can re-raise 2.5~3x of the villan's bet after flop
I think that whether the size is too small and if it is better to re-raise 30~35bb in the situation to prevent the villan having good pot odds to call?
Thanks a lot!
 
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Since you wrote that I can re-raise 2.5~3x of the villan's bet after flop
I think that whether the size is too small and if it is better to re-raise 30~35bb in the situation to prevent the villan having good pot odds to call?
Thanks a lot!

no it's not. For one pot odds won't mean anything if you are beat & he has a better hand - in this case a Jack.
Even if you have a better hand, you don't want to scare him off and keep him in the pot for later streets to gain maximum value.
So you need to balance those out.
 
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That sounds reasonable.
Thanks for answering so many question.:)
 
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alucard also missed out another reason for raising bigger in that UTG 's limp meant that there is more dead money in the pot and his limp also means that his range is not necessarily that strong.
 
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I don't know what raising gains. If he call he can have J or not, if he raises he mostly have J that I give, if he folds he don't have J but maybe TT, 88, 4x, Ahigh jne... hunting 2 outs.

imo only big mistake was not to fold to reraise OTT. Also villain to call raise on the turn needs villain to be super fish, maybe he is but that information is not given.
 
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The handplay is in the URL :
http://www.pokerhandreplays.com/view.php/id/8544316
I am the player 1 and I have AdAh
I know that I have made mistakes, I can't figure out whether I'm defeated or not at flop and turn.
What should I do in such a wet board?
Thanks for answering
( I didn't provide the image of villan because I'm new to the table, that was my second hand)
ps. Sorry for poor English, it isn't my mother language
At the turn you should pretty much realize either way he's outdrawn you (probably has J)... Your turn reraise was not only a wrong move the sizing to 70 cents was ridiculous...

Please, think of why you are raising before deciding the amount.
 
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