$2 NLHE Full Ring: $2 NLHE 9man: straight river call our fold?

Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em, $0.02 BB (8 handed) - Full Tilt Converter Tool from http://poker-tools.flopturnriver.com/Hand-Converter.php

MP2 ($1.06)
CO ($2.13)
Button ($3.56)
Hero (SB) ($1.53)
BB ($0.97)
UTG ($5.12)
UTG+1 ($0.80)
MP1 ($0.74)

Preflop: Hero is SB with J , 10
6 folds, Button raises to $0.06, Hero calls $0.04

Flop: ($0.12) 9 , Q , 9 (2 players)
Hero checks, Button checks

Turn: ($0.12) 2 (2 players)
Hero bets $0.08, Button calls $0.08

River: ($0.28) 8 (2 players)
Hero bets $0.26, Button raises to $0.70, Hero folds

Total pot: $0.80 | Rake: $0.05

Results below:

Hello everybody, I ended up folding a one hand these days , and it has haunted my mind ... I played coontra a good player , he opened the button , and I defended , do not know if the defense was correct, but I know that I was afraid to pay the re -raise river ( full house ) what you guys think?

I'd post some stats/info in the future. Just saying he's a good player doesn't do a whole lot.

Any ways, it's between call or shove on the river. It's def not a fold unless this guy is a total nit. He's committed now on the river, so probably shove is better to get him to call it off w/ 9x. His line is of course suspicious when he button raises and then doesn't bet that flop lol... but regardless, he has more 9x in his range than QQ/88. 22 probably is almost never checking that flop. Then you have TJ for split and a small percent of busted draw bluffs like KT. Although his river sizing looks like pure value.

Yes my friend, bet for value on the river ... then I saw him play at position 33 , giving this raise 3x pre , but he hit his set on the flop ... so I think my fold was good .. .but wanted a second opinion about defending JT in sb against a button that opens 3x , looking a steal ... and call or fold on the river ... I agree with you , he must have 9x , some fulls , and little or no bluff or pocket pairs generally

ty!

How did he close the action pre in the sb?

atlantafalcons0 said:

How did he close the action pre in the sb?

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BB sat out.

skavenger said:

Yes my friend, bet for value on the river ... then I saw him play at position 33 , giving this raise 3x pre , but he hit his set on the flop ... so I think my fold was good .. .but wanted a second opinion about defending JT in sb against a button that opens 3x , looking a steal ... and call or fold on the river ... I agree with you , he must have 9x , some fulls , and little or no bluff or pocket pairs generally

ty!

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If you just wanted a pre-flop opinion, you really need more info in order to give a good decision. In a wind tunnel with no info, it's ok to defend with if you're confident with your OOP play. Especially since you're closing out the action. If you don't think you can't win more than -50bb/100 there, then fold.

And as far as river decision, again, if we look at the combos he'll raise and have committed himself with, those out weight the times he has a boat and you're beat. But if you want to go w/ your gut here, then by all means. I think figuring out the probability will yield a much higher long term EV unless you can soul read real well.

There's going to be times you need to trust your gut (which is really just your subconscious trying to use your body to tell you it saw some things you didn't consciously process completely). But for myself, I tend to save those for the times I'm in live games and can pick up on more information and I use math and probability much more often in online games. I can't tell you how many times my 'gut' told me to fold, but the math said call or shove, and I did and won. Maybe I just need a gut check.

John A said:

BB sat out.

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So no one posted a BB?

That's weird!

I would call river.

I dont believe he has full house.

He might have other hands like trips or high pair.