$2 NLHE 6-max: Zoom: Do we ever call here?

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PokerStars - $0.02 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has J:club: J:diamond:

fold, fold, Hero raises to 3 BB, fold, SB raises to 11 BB, BB raises to 31 BB, fold, SB calls 20 BB

This is zoom, so players are unknown. Do we ever call in these spots?
 
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What is the stack size please? Unless it is super deep, I would fold JJ to cold 4 bet especially SB acting behind even in position.
 
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Hard call, against a range of QQ+, AJs+, KJs+ you would have 22% equity 3 ways. Against a slightly wider range of TT+, AJs+, AJo+, KJs+, and QJs you would have about 34% equity at which point you'd be able to shove and HOPEFULLY get the pot heads up(if not, you have blockers if they don't have QQ+).
Probably, fold vs 4bet pre in zoom as players generally play a much tighter range AND you don't know whether the SB will call or fold which has a big factor on your odds.
Assuming 100BB stacks, you do not have the stacks behind to set mine jacks thus a cold call wouldn't be a good idea(QQ+ in opponents range, Q+ on board means you gotta fold, etc.)
 
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Id fold your not last to act.If you were last to act id likely call as a pure set mine with the implied odds of the other caller as'well.
 
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Thanks for the replies! Stack sizes were indeed around 100-150. I was in position but figured my odds would be too low against the range justsopro mentioned.
 
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Hard call, against a range of QQ+, AJs+, KJs+ you would have 22% equity 3 ways.
No one is cold 4-betting KJs at these stakes, and you didn’t include off-suit hands in your range. So your range is way off. But yeah, easy food here with no reads.
 
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No one is cold 4-betting KJs at these stakes, and you didn’t include off-suit hands in your range. So your range is way off. But yeah, easy food here with no reads.
I guess you could include AQo+ in the range, but I can see players 4-bet bluffing KJs, AJs, etc for fold equity plus those hands can hit the flop really hard. Plus, it's .02 nl, your reason for not including bluffs is because of that but at the same time people play really bad at those stakes and might not even think 3betting those is bluffing
 
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