$2 NLHE 6-max: zoom 3bet pot facing donk bet shove OTF with 2nd pair – call / fold?

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$2 NLHE 6-max: zoom 3bet pot facing donk bet shove OTF with 2nd pair – call / fold?

No information on villain.
In your opinion should I call? He has some draws, but surely some sets and 2 pairs.
Maybe with AK I have to call.

PokerStars - $0.02 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: 125.5 BB (VPIP: 16.67, PFR: 16.67, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, hands: 6)
SB: 99 BB
Hero (BB): 142.5 BB
UTG: 193 BB (VPIP: 14.29, PFR: 14.29, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 8)
MP: 160 BB (VPIP: 33.33, PFR: 21.21, 3Bet Preflop: 14.29, Hands: 34)
CO: 143 BB (VPIP: 0.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: -, Hands: 1)

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, Hero posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has K K

fold, fold, fold, fold, SB raises to 3 BB, Hero raises to 8 BB, SB calls 5 BB

Flop: (16 BB, 2 players) A 6 Q
SB bets 91 BB and is all-in, Hero?
 
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Ok I wen't over database: OTF donk bet over pot size - 3bet pot, under 50bb stack hands removed:

fish*: nuts: 2, good draw: 3, semi good hand: 2, bad: 3
others*: bad: 1, good: 3, very good: 2


It seems the shove is mostly for value and 'protection', draws and only some air balls.

I think it's clear fold now?
 
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This just happened and this time it wasn't too hard to call because the study I did to database. So thank you very much cardchat! The paired board + fish seems to be deadly combination.

PokerStars - $0.02 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players

Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: 99 BB
SB: 101 BB
Hero (BB): 196 BB
UTG: 93.5 BB
MP: 260 BB (VPIP: 37.50, PFR: 25.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 9)
CO: 100 BB (VPIP: 0.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 4)

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, Hero posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has 8 T

fold, fold, fold, BTN calls 1 BB, fold, Hero checks

Flop: (2.5 BB, 2 players) 7 T 7
Hero checks, BTN bets 58 BB, Hero raises to 132 BB, BTN calls 40 BB and is all-in

Turn: (198.5 BB, 2 players) T

River: (198.5 BB, 2 players) K

[spoil]Hero shows 8 T (Full House, Tens full of Sevens)
(Pre 36%, Flop 74%, Turn 100%)
BTN mucks A Q (Two Pair, Tens and Sevens)
(Pre 64%, Flop 26%, Turn 0%)
Hero wins 191.5 BB
 
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Hi,

In the first hand is a clearly fold. There will be much more spots to win $. However, seems he's a fish tag him and review all his hands. It's players like him you want to play against...

In second hand, despite your win, try to play IP with those maniac villains.
 
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Hi,

In the first hand is a clearly fold. There will be much more spots to win $. However, seems he's a fish tag him and review all his hands. It's players like him you want to play against...

In second hand, despite your win, try to play IP with those maniac villains.

For sure a clear fold but review all of this guys hands is almost meaningless because he won't be around for long.
 
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