$2 NLHE 6-max: When to fold straight on flush board?

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Are the villains bots or real people? The answer is important here because of several things.
 
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Afaik they're real people, but they could be bots as it was on pokerstars low stakes.
 
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Hi SC Gurgeh
1. you can fold your hand preflop
2. You should just call his .13 river raise because he can have 78, and loads of flushes.

it's enough to call down his reraises with flushes only.
if you want to bluff raise in this spot you should choose A flush blocker
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you should give us some info on villain to get the best response any stats etc to categorise him and help narrow down a range.
Also post a hand history rather than a link to a hand replayer and stop the hand history at the point you weren't sure about and remove the results .

having said that

preflop - if villain is really loose , you could 3 bet as his range would be really wide so the chances are that if you setmined by calling , if you hit your set he would be unlikely to pay you off when you hit because his range is wide so likely to be really weak on the flop and fold his air.
if he's tight then set mine hiim as his range will be ahead of you and if you hit , he's likely to have a hand that will go several streets with getting value.

flop - as played fine

turn - bet 10c as he checked back on flop so likely missed the flop and charge flush draws to continue and build pot if your straight hits on the river.


river - if you bet the turn , bet the river and represent either a flush /straight but fold to any raises as you don't even have the nut straight as 78 has you beaten.

as played fold to the river raise don't get into a raising war.
 
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Thanks for replies everyone! I'll keep these tips in mind.
 
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turn - bet 10c as he checked back on flop so likely missed the flop and charge flush draws to continue and build pot if your straight hits on the river.

Something just occurred to me. It might be an elementary mistake in logic, but isn't charging flush draws here weird if I'm also basically charging myself for my own straight-draw? Wouldn't it be better for me to see a cheap river, and bet once I'm more sure that I have my hand?
 
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nah ... you are value betting your pair vs his perceived air from his check back on the flop with added equity from a potential straight draw
 
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nah ... you are value betting your pair vs his perceived air from his check back on the flop with added equity from a potential straight draw

Ahhh, that makes sense. Would I check with only a straight draw then?
 
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In 2NL 9-max i don't setmine OOP with the bullshit small pairs even if it is a min raise from the opponent, unless it is from the Btn + unless .....+unless......

As played, I think that you could just call his river raise and avoid engaging in a raise war.
 
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In 2NL 9-max i don't setmine OOP with the bullshit small pairs even if it is a min raise from the opponent, unless it is from the Btn + unless .....+unless......

Yeah when I originally re-played the hand I noticed that mistake as well. What do you mean by "+ unless .....+unless......"?
 
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If there is a super-active guy or a smartass who likes to steal.......it would not be a huge mistake to give a call to a normal open.

But you need a HUD, i don't use HUDs.

I tend to come to the conclusion that small pairs and weak offsuit Broadways are massively trouble hands and beginners need to be very careful. I still have to work on that.
 
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If there is a super-active guy or a smartass who likes to steal.......it would not be a huge mistake to give a call to a normal open.

But you need a HUD, i don't use HUDs.

I tend to come to the conclusion that small pairs and weak offsuit Broadways are massively trouble hands and beginners need to be very careful. I still have to work on that.

Yeah I'm trying to get Jivaro installed, but it's not working for me
 
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