$2 NLHE 6-max: When to call loose player's big bet

I am a loser, and have not even win for one time. I know I am a beginner, I made lots of mistake.
However these two following examples I am not sure if I made serious mistake or if it is ok.
They are both loose player. I think they have the ability to bluff. That is why I called it. Is that really wrong.
Sometimes I just do not know how to play with these loose players. They seems much tight after flop. I was trying to punish their loose action but always found I was beaten

No.1
Merge, $0.02/$0.04 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 4 Players
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BB: $4.65 (116.3 bb)
CO: $3.86 (96.5 bb)
Hero (BTN): $3.37 (84.3 bb)
SB: $4.02 (100.5 bb)

Preflop: Hero is BTN with K J
CO raises to $0.12, Hero calls $0.12, 2 folds

Flop: ($0.30) 4 K 9 (2 players)
CO bets $0.20, Hero raises to $0.40, CO calls $0.20

Turn: ($1.10) J (2 players)
CO checks, Hero bets $0.39, CO raises to $1.64, Hero calls $1.25

River: ($4.38) 7 (2 players)
CO bets $1.70, Hero calls $1.21 and is all-in



No.2
Merge, $0.02/$0.04 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 5 Players
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MP: $3.64 (91 bb)
CO: $4.29 (107.3 bb)
Hero (BTN): $14.70 (367.5 bb)
SB: $6.48 (162 bb)
BB: $4 (100 bb)

Preflop: Hero is BTN with Q Q
2 folds, Hero raises to $0.12, SB calls $0.10, BB folds

Flop: ($0.28) 2 7 2 (2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $0.14, SB calls $0.14

Turn: ($0.56) 3 (2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $0.28, SB calls $0.28

River: ($1.12) 6 (2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $0.56, SB raises to $2.24, Hero calls $1.68

1st hand:
Turn on auto top off so you always have $4.
Why raise the flop?
Why did you bet so small on the turn?
Why not go all in after you get raised on the turn?

2nd hand

Stop betting so damn small. Your bets should be around 2/3 or 3/4 size of the pot

Never ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever min-bet. It's just retarded. Your general bet sizing is very bad as well

1st hand as played anything but shoving turn is just illogical

2nd hand bigger everywhere

I found even in this lowest level, they play really loose preflop, but they are seems not that bad postflop. They play more careful.
That is why I need advice. I only have little experience.Maybe my impression is wrong. Sometimes I have strong hand and I bet they fold. I only won little. But when I have weak one I lost more. Maybe it is my mistake when playing the weak one.
That is why I do not want to bet too much to scare them out. It seems that if it is not too scare, they are willing to go showdown.
Maybe I give their chance to beat me.
Thank you very much

I always think this loose play like to call to the end with weak hand if the bet is small in this lower level game. But they qiut quickly if you bet more. Maybe my thought is worng.

BlueNowhere said:

Never ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever min-bet. It's just retarded. Your general bet sizing is very bad as well

1st hand as played anything but shoving turn is just illogical

2nd hand bigger everywhere

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Just presume that every single player is terrible when you play micro stakes until they can prove you otherwise. Also I don't know why you think they'll be good post-flop, hardly anyone is a good post-flop player at these stakes.

Not good. They are just seems more careful compared to their loose play PF. They quit fast if you bet is bigger. They maybe call if the bet is small, as they will not lose a lot and can see more cards
That is just my theory.

BlueNowhere said:

Just presume that every single player is terrible when you play micro stakes until they can prove you otherwise. Also I don't know why you think they'll be good post-flop, hardly anyone is a good post-flop player at these stakes.

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Just do as we say.







Also read Phil Gordon's little green book and the golden archives section of this forum. You need to study

Alright. I will read it. Today I just changed my bet size. Only lost a little. Maybe because I am in a very tight table this time. I only get 5% to the showdown. Anyway I will continue try

I take a look again. Yes, I should have flat call it.

If I raised with bigger bet, is that an option

bgomez89 said:

1st hand:
Why raise the flop?

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No, just flatting flop is best. I'd be tempted to take baluga line.

bgomez89 said:

1st hand:
Turn on auto top off so you always have $4.
Why raise the flop?
Why did you bet so small on the turn?
Why not go all in after you get raised on the turn?

2nd hand

Stop betting so damn small. Your bets should be around 2/3 or 3/4 size of the pot. Fold to his river shove.

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Yep, that.

bgomez89 said:

Also read Phil Gordon's little green book and the golden archives section of this forum. You need to study

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And that. When you're new to the game, the #1 thing you can do is read opinions from other good players. Because they will often describe their thought process, and learning the deductive logic that poker players use to make the correct decision is super important. While not every poker player thinks exactly alike, they all use a similar knowledge of logic & odds that you'll need to learn.

Actually I have read phil's book, I just do not remember if the bet size have to be large. I thought the book is for the tournament, and the bet size should be flexcible. I probably need to read it again

bgomez89 said:

Just do as we say.







Also read Phil Gordon's little green book and the golden archives section of this forum. You need to study

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