€2 NLHE 6-max: UTG 88 and missed flop

alipalip

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Hi all! How you guys play hand like this?

iPoker - €0.02 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BB: €0.69 (VPIP: 24.70, PFR: 6.63, 3Bet Preflop: 1.89, hands: 174)
Hero (UTG): €2.27
MP: €0.77 (VPIP: 50.00, PFR: 22.22, 3Bet Preflop: 9.09, Hands: 46)
CO: €2.64 (VPIP: 10.17, PFR: 8.47, 3Bet Preflop: 2.38, Hands: 120)
BTN: €2.15 (VPIP: 17.81, PFR: 15.07, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 76)
SB: €1.98 (VPIP: 0.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 1)

SB posts SB €0.01, BB posts BB €0.02

Pre Flop: (pot: €0.03) Hero has 8:heart: 8:club:

Hero raises to €0.08, fold, fold, fold, SB calls €0.07, fold

Flop: (€0.18, 2 players) 3:diamond: 9:club: J:club:
SB bets €0.09, Hero raises to €0.24, SB calls €0.15

Turn: (€0.66, 2 players) T:diamond:
SB bets €0.46, Hero calls €0.46

River: (€1.58, 2 players) T:heart:
SB bets €0.79, fold

SB wins €2.27
 
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Personally against an unknown I would not have re-raised the flop. This is ok if you think SB is doing this with air but you have no information to suggest this is so... Often this is done with stronger holdings where players want to inflate the pot hoping to be played back at by the PFR or weaker holdings such as bottom pair or draws. Against either of these your equity is not great. Also if you are raised again by the SB you have to fold here.

I am not a fan of folding to the donk bet as this is exploitable so a flat call here is fine and reassess on the turn, on the turn when the 10 hits you can flat call again (although folding is not a terrible option here given that the SB is an unknown) however you are going to hate like half the river cards and even if you make your straight/set you are often going to be beat, then fold the river as you beat nothing but a busted club draw and without information a hero call here is difficult.

Given the lack of information on the SB, re-raising the SB lead I feel accomplishes nothing but bloating a pot on an very wet board that hits a lot of villains likely SB defending range and not a lot of your UTG opening range. I would be raising here with sets, nut flush draws and over pairs against an unknown. You are going to have to make pretty big decisions on the turn and river that are just much easier to make when the pot size is controlled. Also why the 4x open UTG is that something you always do?

In this hand I probably lose 35c here instead of 78c.
 
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Unknown blind leads out against my UTG PFR and there is a coordinated board w/ two overs - I probably fold to his flop bet.
 
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Unknown blind leads out against my UTG PFR and there is a coordinated board w/ two overs - I probably fold to his flop bet.
Yep.

Should probably raise the turn as well once you get there. Probably not going to get paid much if you hit a Q or 7. So you don't have the odds to call, raise or fold are your remaining options.
 
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I have no problem with the PFR and the lead out bet on the flop. But IMO, once he plays back at you on the flop, you have to be very wary. I am likely folding in that position, as I am fairly certain I am down to drawing an 8 or backdoor straight to have a shot. Not worth the investment.

If you feel the need to see another card for whatever reason, you need to let it go at that point. The turn gives another shot at an overpair, plus makes one of the potential draws in their range. Save the money and get away from it early.
 
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Thanks for everybody. Next time i`ll be more carefull with PP in UTG.
 
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I think, the crucial point is at the turn. No calling there.

You have to decide whether you proceed with raise again or fold at all.
 
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He puts you on high card, AQ, AJ etc he's going to bet and you are in a demise with two overcards on the board. I'd approach with caution. It would have been nice to call the river and see a bluff, like a straight draw, if you can afford to lose another E0.79 if it wasn't and 9, 10, J was in his range.
 
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