$2 NLHE 6-max: TT How would you play this.

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PokerStars - $0.02 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 5 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BB: $1.74 (VPIP: 36.84, PFR: 21.05, 3Bet Preflop: 27.27, hands: 19)
UTG: $1.67 (VPIP: 50.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 18)
CO: $4.13 (VPIP: 33.33, PFR: 14.29, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 21)
Hero (BTN): $2.73
SB: $2.01 (VPIP: 50.00, PFR: 16.67, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 7)

SB posts SB $0.01, BB posts BB $0.02

Pre Flop: (pot: $0.03) Hero has T:diamond: T:heart:

UTG calls $0.02, CO calls $0.02, Hero raises to $0.12, fold, fold, UTG calls $0.10, CO calls $0.10

Flop: ($0.39, 3 players) 9:diamond: K:spade: 9:spade:
UTG bets $0.19, fold, Hero calls $0.19

Turn: ($0.77, 2 players) 9:club:
UTG bets $0.74, fold,
 
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I was almost thinking a shove could be +ev but i went safe option.
 
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There was no need to commit any more chips by raising or shoving on that flop.
Also i fail to understand how shoving there is +ev. It would have been the worst option to choose i think.

So wise decision in the end anyhow. ;)
 
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just look at 27% 3betting range... small amount of hands but still.
 
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Good fold. Let him take the pot.

UTG bets on the turn is somewhat saying he is not afraid of any fullhouse kicker.
 
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Not much experience on cash tables, but i have question.

What was you thinking on flop when you called or what was the plan?- i mean really, calling station line will ever be profitable?

fold on flop or 3bet light and look what happens! imo
 
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Prolly made right fold.. I do see plenty of bovada donks shove A high here on the lower limits
 
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You made the right decision on the turn. However, I kinda think you should have made your decision on the flop. Your opponent here does see lots of flops (50%). I dont see any post flop stats on him and that would matter here but I kinda like a small raise on the flop. Your raise preflop says you have a decent hand. A BIG part of your range includes a K and I might have tried to represent one here. Who knows....your TT might be good here anyway. Definitely not an all in, but maybe a raise to about 50??. Folding is also fine in this spot. I just think you have to make your decision on the flop. Good Luck.
 
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I love turn fold too, but the flop play? Is it standard in this situation to make call on flop (board 9K9) with TT?

Ty - JKo2theQQ (was posting same time as you - thinking the same way as you)!
 
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Think fold is best though based on stats because all the hands he is calling your going to find a much better situation to get it all-in vs him
 
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Not much experience on cash tables, but i have question.

What was you thinking on flop when you called or what was the plan?- i mean really, calling station line will ever be profitable?

fold on flop or 3bet light and look what happens! imo


I called flop because im calling most flops with pocket tens... so many players will give up turn and we can turn up and steal the pot... we could also call down cheap flop turn and value river when he checks ;) ... position is great
 
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That argument does hold some water. If you have any kind of read or stats on this guy's post flop play, calling with the intention of taking it down on the turn could work. For instance, if your stats tell you that he will bet the flop 90%.....sure, you could call and re-evaluate on the turn. However, if we assume that you will not fold, I still think raising here is better than just calling. You only have 18 hands worth of stats on this guy, but 50% vpip is very aggressive, even for 6max. I would imagine that he bets at a lot of pots trying to take it down. Since you raised preflop, you are representing a decent hand. I think a 9 would definitely check to the raiser looking to get a cbet from you. Raising on the flop here does a couple of things for you. You could get him to lay down and take the pot now. Raising will also further define your opponents hand. If he calls or reraises, you can be fairly certain you are behind, which will make your turn and river decisions much easier. Also, the raise may get him to check on the turn, which would give you a free river card (any chance he gives you to spike your T is fantastic). I definitely understand what you are saying about micro players giving up after their flop bet is called, but I think just calling boxes you in a bit. If he bets the turn, you will be playing a guessing game again and you will be faced with a tough decision. The raise may cost you an extra 30-40 cent if he 3bets and you have to fold, but what if you just call and he continues to bet half the pot on the turn and river? It may cost you much more than 40 cent. Good luck....... and always remember.... (what if he's thinking about what you think he thinks you are thinking????)......just kidding.
 
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There was no need to commit any more chips by raising or shoving on that flop.
Also i fail to understand how shoving there is +ev. It would have been the worst option to choose i think.

So wise decision in the end anyhow. ;)


I aint replaying specifically to your post but your private message. And since you don't accept private messages. **we both know why** lol

Poor bloke his team lost against the Aussies hehe..

Oh well could've been a better game and I don't know why dhoni didn't try a lot harder earlier on. Waited too late to make the runs I feel. but lets face it our bowling attack did bowl really well.
 
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You made the right decision on the turn. However, I kinda think you should have made your decision on the flop. Your opponent here does see lots of flops (50%). I dont see any post flop stats on him and that would matter here but I kinda like a small raise on the flop. Your raise preflop says you have a decent hand. A BIG part of your range includes a K and I might have tried to represent one here. Who knows....your TT might be good here anyway. Definitely not an all in, but maybe a raise to about 50??. Folding is also fine in this spot. I just think you have to make your decision on the flop. Good Luck.



lets remember he only just limped in as well.. he could have any hand, more likely a 9 than a K... but seriously ATC :) that was my thinking tbh that's why I was leaning towards a shove. That's why I thought maybe theres some math equation we could use to justify the shove?

cuz he could be bluffing a lot of the time.
 
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