$2 NLHE 6-max: TPBK blinds any reason to bet/call?

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Q1: Given my sizing I need to call?
Q2: Should I have bet bigger to fold given how weak I am? or I should not bet at all.

General: Games are wild currently, not going to pretend I understand much.
Notes: Overvalues top pair on the river.
3bets late position: 4/11. 3bets vs button 2/2 (this hand included).


PokerStars - $0.02 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

Hero (BTN): 110 BB
SB: 119 BB (VPIP: 21.43, PFR: 17.86, 3Bet Preflop: 18.18, hands: 29)
BB: 420.5 BB (VPIP: 9.76, PFR: 7.32, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 42)
UTG: 233.5 BB (VPIP: 50.00, PFR: 50.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 2)
MP: 135 BB (VPIP: 22.22, PFR: 9.52, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 65)
CO: 104.5 BB (VPIP: 23.53, PFR: 23.53, 3Bet Preflop: 7.69, Hands: 53)

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has K 7

fold, fold, fold, Hero raises to 3 BB, SB raises to 9 BB, fold, Hero raises to 25.5 BB, SB calls 16.5 BB

Flop: (52 BB, 2 players) K 3 5
SB checks, Hero checks

Turn: (52 BB, 2 players) 3
SB checks, Hero bets 20.5 BB, SB raises to 93.5 BB and is all-in,
 
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come on dude! This is 2NL. You have to pick better spots.
If you think he's stealing too much why not just flat & play in position?
If your intention is stealing with the 4 bet, but after the flat by him just get to showdown with TP.
I've lost much the same way.
 
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This is not very trivial spot imo. And this in zoom 2NL not 2NL regular. I have hard time to keep good winrate there.

This was fold or 4bet, no way I'm going to call. Given flush draw hands beating me are close to zero? A3s (1), KK (1).

But well I guess you are right sigh.
 
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AKs? I'm putting him on the top of his range.
 
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AKs? I'm putting him on the top of his range.

AdKd makes sense that is true. Why would he shove though, nothing to protect? Of course maybe he likes to check raise any AK, but given '4bet is always AA' he will not do that mostly.
 
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I fold this pre on zoom without enough stats.

Spr of 2 and you commit yourself on the turn I believe, gross spot! Think checking turn is fine, you could induce a bluff on the river or get out of this without putting more chips. Being raise is bad news here...
 
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AdKd makes sense that is true. Why would he shove though, nothing to protect? Of course maybe he likes to check raise any AK, but given '4bet is always AA' he will not do that mostly.

at 2NL people don't need a reason to do anything at all so I try not to find one :D
Even KK makes sense here.

But still, consider the Kx hands that's calling the 4bet & loose to K7..

So what are you beating exactly against a player with decemt VPIP/PFR who check raises all in?
You are only dominating the flushes as you said but even those combos are very limited.
 
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Better use broadway offsuit as 4bet bluffs without reads imo, AQo, kqo, some kjo, gives your more blockers. When people flats too much, it becomes costly to 4-bet weak suited hands imo.
 
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Better use broadway offsuit as 4bet bluffs without reads imo,

Agree. This time though I did this. there is too little info in zoom so any opportunity missed is luls missed one..:handkiss:
 
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So what are you beating exactly against a player with decemt VPIP/PFR who check raises all in?
You are only dominating the flushes as you said but even those combos are very limited.

Well given my sizing I'm beating the ego of next Phil Ivey, nothing more valid =) But like I said, you are right, I should have folded. I probably was trying to just find a excuse to call. I did win btw, but the call was unreasonable it seems, like I guessed.

It's just what John told me about small sizing, they get the worst/best out of a player. And last time I folded to raise after small bet, he told me it was wrong. I was wondering if I just was tilting or had correct play. 4bet pot is different I would guess.
 
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Well, I disagree, this is certainly a call after your bet on turn, gross but committing nonetheless. This initial bet on the turn is the mistake imo.

I have played only PLO for some weeks so it feels my analysis can be a bit off these days but I feel this one is right :)
 
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Well, I disagree, this is certainly a call after your bet on turn, gross but committing nonetheless. This initial bet on the turn is the mistake imo.

Dang I missed your first comment. I feel better now thx.
 
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Still thinking about it, he should show up with plenty of QQ-TT here and people don't like to fold in a 4bet pot at 2NL imo. So there are enough bluffs here when he feels weakness from your line (you could play a monster the same way but does he even think about it). On a QT35 board, easy fold, but you wouldn't have bet this turn surely.
 
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open pre fine - fold to 3bet ,number of hands is way to small to infer he's 3betting light and 4betting is just fps.
 
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Yeah, check the turn, that was quite united view. Thx.

He had AJo, no diamond.
 
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