$2 NLHE 6-max: Top kicker against aggro player

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Hero stack: 0.83c Vilain stack:0.69c

Folds to hero in SB
Hero bets 0.06c
Villain raises 0.018c
hero calls

FLOP 7c 9c Ks POT: 0.34c

Hero checks
Villain bets 0.36c

What would you do here? He has 3bet everytime I raise in SB and I have folded everytime to him. He 3bets alot to other people and is a very aggro player. What do you think? Call, Fold or Re-raise? Also does anyone know where I can get a copy of the actual hand on 888 poker? I can only find the replays
 
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Hero stack: 0.83c Vilain stack:0.69c

Folds to hero in SB
Hero bets 0.06c
Villain raises 0.018c
hero calls

FLOP 7c 9c Ks POT: 0.34c

Hero checks
Villain bets 0.36c

What would you do here? He has 3bet everytime I raise in SB and I have folded everytime to him. He 3bets alot to other people and is a very aggro player. What do you think? Call, Fold or Re-raise? Also does anyone know where I can get a copy of the actual hand on 888 poker? I can only find the replays

What are your hole cards?
 
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I assume you have AK?

ThaT being said, if those are your hole cards....

I assume this is HU?


If it's HU, and dude is super aggro, in a spot like this preflop, just stuff a 4b ship down his throat, reload if you lose.
 
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I'm also assuming you have AK.

4-bet preflop to 0.72$ - get it in.

If he 3-bets every time, then play a little tighter and take him to town when you play.
Try to get a handle on his bet sizing - what does he do for value, what does he do as a bluff.

Also, buy-in full.
 
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I'm also assuming you have AK.

4-bet preflop to 0.72$ - get it in.

If he 3-bets every time, then play a little tighter and take him to town when you play.
Try to get a handle on his bet sizing - what does he do for value, what does he do as a bluff.

Also, buy-in full.


I was going to say buy in full too, but V has less than H. That's wierd, but I'm strangely comfortable with it.
 
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I was going to say buy in full too, but V has less than H. That's wierd, but I'm strangely comfortable with it.
The buy in full advice isn't relevant to this hand, but will be relevant to most other hands at that table.
 
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Sorry guys

Crap, sorry guys. I wrote this really fast. I had KJs. And you can only buy in for $1 on 888 Poker. It's so dumb. Also it was 6max
 
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Crap, sorry guys. I wrote this really fast. I had KJs. And you can only buy in for $1 on 888 poker. It's so dumb. Also it was 6max
Doesn't change the fact that you should buy in max and auto-top-up. ;)

Thread title said "Top Kicker", so it's "Top pair, good kicker" instead?

Does he 3-bet 100% if you open? Because in that case, I'd be inclined to just open-limp and see a cheaper flop with KJo.
If not, preflop is fine.

As played, just check/raise the flop all-in.
 
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Doesn't change the fact that you should buy in max and auto-top-up. ;)

Thread title said "Top Kicker", so it's "Top pair, good kicker" instead?

Does he 3-bet 100% if you open? Because in that case, I'd be inclined to just open-limp and see a cheaper flop with KJo.
If not, preflop is fine.

As played, just check/raise the flop all-in.

Yeah, fark i was totally out of it when I wrote this it seems. And yes he 3bets 100% of the time whenever I would bet. I didn't try limping. And do you think I should add auto top off? im worried it'll burn through my bankroll without me realising?
 
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Yeah, fark i was totally out of it when I wrote this it seems. And yes he 3bets 100% of the time whenever I would bet. I didn't try limping. And do you think I should add auto top off? im worried it'll burn through my bankroll without me realising?
Nah, it just fills up every time you fold your blinds or lose a hand, but it gets you max value if you get it in good vs another full stack. This last bit compensates for everything.

If you dwindle down to 0.75$, for instance, and get it in good, you double up to 1.50$. With a full stack, you'd double up to 2.00$. The difference is TWICE the amount you've lost before this point.


If you worry it'll burn through your bankroll, then occasionally check your bankroll to ease your mind. Just be aware that that's results-oriented thinking...



About the limping: I'd reason that I want to open-raise every hand that I'm willing to get it in with preflop, to do precisely that: 4-bet shove his 3-bet.
With all other hands that are too good to pass up but would like to see a flop first, I'd limp so his 3-bet will only be about the size it'd be had we open-raised ourselves and he called.

Don't know what others think of this, though.
 
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If he is very agro the calling line gets more profit out of him. If you raise he will call with value hands, after all agro players like to bet with air not call with air. Especially if you have a history of folding to him.
 
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If he is very agro the calling line gets more profit out of him. If you raise he will call with value hands, after all agro players like to bet with air not call with air. Especially if you have a history of folding to him.
People that bluff a lot tend to think you're bluffing just as much and will call lighter...
 
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TimovieMan, very much true. However he won't call down with air, which is what he mostly have. Also if passive player who has folded him many times suddenly raises him on K high board he won’t be calling with too bad hands either. Then again, there is so little stack behind after the call, that more often than not he shoves the turn or river with any two cards, because it’s cool thing to do for agro, especially when he thinks there is fold equity.
Someone guided me somewhere that you are supposed to play against villain’s mistakes. That means in purest form that against fish you bet value light and against agro you call light.
 
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Crap, sorry guys. I wrote this really fast. I had KJs. And you can only buy in for $1 on 888 poker. It's so dumb. Also it was 6max

What game type are you playing that has that? Just curious, as FR let's you buy in for 100bbs

Definitely auto top up. You'll probably know if you're burning through your bankroll as you'll likely be tilting haha.
 
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What game type are you playing that has that? Just curious, as FR let's you buy in for 100bbs

Definitely auto top up. You'll probably know if you're burning through your bankroll as you'll likely be tilting haha.

It's just ordinary 6max 2NL on 888 poker
 
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It's just ordinary 6max 2NL on 888 poker

Are you sure the table doesn't say "short" next to it? I thought the same thing when I played act, turned out it was just a short stack variant and that there were normal tables too. I don't play 888 so I wouldn't know.

Short stack tables can be good if you have a bad habit of shoving and flipping in marginal spots, but if you play well then it is better to play full stack
 
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Are you sure the table doesn't say "short" next to it? I thought the same thing when I played act, turned out it was just a short stack variant and that there were normal tables too. I don't play 888 so I wouldn't know.

Short stack tables can be good if you have a bad habit of shoving and flipping in marginal spots, but if you play well then it is better to play full stack

Nah, there's not "short" next to it and there aren't even any deepstack tables I can find. having 50bb does get to me sometimes and I start to shove more often because of such a tiny stack.
 
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RESULTS

I re-raised shove and he showed Q10s of clubs and hit the flush on the turn.
 
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dont play short stacked... dont play tables where theres a lot of shortstacks

if we have any edge at all .. the shorter stacks really remove it
 
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