$2 NLHE 6-max: Tens bet down to river and shoved on, should I of folded?

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Ok, another typical river shove bet from 2nl. I didn't call, should I of?

The problem is I've noticed recently I've been getting bet down to the river and shoved on. I know now after the hand I should of re raised him on the flop so I didn't look weak. Here is the hand..

I thought it was possible he might of missed his flush draw and when the river came he didn't put me on a king so shoved it, I really don't know what I should of done here.

Stats: 78/11

Poker Stars - $0.01/$0.02 No Limit Hold'em (5 players)
Poker Stars Hand Converter Tool from CardsChat.com

SB: $2
BB: $2.59
UTG: $8.28
CO Hero: $4.18
BTN: $0.97

Pre-flop: ($0.03) Hero is CO and dealt :10d4: :10c4:
UTG folds, Hero raises $0.06, 2 folds, BB calls $0.04

Flop: ($0.13) :3s4: :4s4: :9d4: (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $0.08, BB calls $0.08

Turn: ($0.29) :3s4: :4s4: :9d4: :kc4: (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $0.16, BB calls $0.16

River: ($0.61) :3s4: :4s4: :9d4: :kc4: :kd4: (2 players)
BB bets $2.29 (All-in), Hero folds, BB returned $2.29

Final Pot: $0.61

Showdown:
BTN mucks his hand
Outcome: BB wins $0.58



Here is a laughable hand in another table around the same time. What in gods name was he doing trying to buy a 10cent pot here? I actually nearly didn't call as I had a weak Ace and sometimes people will shove on a board like that with the nuts to rep an out right bluff.


Poker Stars - $0.01/$0.02 No Limit Hold'em (5 players)
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SB: $6.26
BB Hero: $3.13
UTG: $1.95
CO: $3.78
BTN: $2.02

Pre-flop: ($0.03) Hero is BB and dealt :8h4: :ad4:
3 folds, SB calls $0.01, Hero raises $0.04, SB calls $0.04

Flop: ($0.12) :7d4: :ac4: :ah4: (2 players)
SB checks, Hero checks

Turn: ($0.12) :7d4: :ac4: :ah4: :qd4: (2 players)
SB bets $6.20 (All-in), Hero calls $3.07 (All-in), SB returned $3.13

River: ($6.26) :7d4: :ac4: :ah4: :qd4: :5s4: (2 players)

Final Pot: $6.26

Showdown:
SB shows :3c4: :jd4:
Hero shows :8h4: :ad4:
Outcome: Hero wins $5.95
 
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Hand 1 is a call imo.

Hand 2 bet the flop.
 
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just curious, on hand 2 what is your thought process when you min raise preflop?
 
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just curious, on hand 2 what is your thought process when you min raise preflop?

He was very aggressive loose player and I thought any two cards at this point was good. The thing is he shoved and over bet the pot lots so I thought to save my blinds at this point I would min raise the pre flop with any hand I was going to enter with him as majority of the time I was folding to his massive over bets if I didnt hit as I really had no clue on what he could have. He literally called out the blinds everytime to any sort of raise be it 3x or 4x bb. He had 70/40 stats or something daft.
 
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if you know he's calling anything, why would you raise less? If you're afraid that he's going to call and outplay you postflop just check, or if you feel you're way ahead of his range you could raise like to $1.50 and then just shove any flop
 
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if you know he's calling anything, why would you raise less? If you're afraid that he's going to call and outplay you postflop just check, or if you feel you're way ahead of his range you could raise like to $1.50 and then just shove any flop

Because previously say I'd open with a middle pair or A,10/A,Q for example and he flat called. If I put in a C-bet he would shove me so I'd have to fold. Now I know this sounds like I was totally outplayed and maybe it was air but I really couldn't rule out any hand and it wasn't worth a call with nothing but Ace high. I then would mix up some checks like in the last example and let him make a mistake and well that was a nice feeling!

As for raising like $1.50 and shoving any flop, I'm sure he would be calling regardless of what he held. No bet/raise would get rid of him. A very loose station caller willing to stack with Ace high or one pair lol.

He did take some pots of me but I waited for my time like that hand and once we stacked and I took the pot he left instantly.

A very nice sense of achievement there lol.
 
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Like i said if we have a hand like AJ for example against this guy and we know he'll call any bet, raise a crazy amount and just shove flop for value
 
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