$2 NLHE 6-max: Shove AA on this board?

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poker stars $0.01/$0.02 No Limit Hold'em - 6 players - http://www.handconverter.com/hands/3013945


BTN: $2.40
SB: $1.14
BB: $2.57
Hero (UTG): $2.65
MP: $3.84
CO: $2.07

Pre Flop: ($0.03) Hero is UTG with Ac Ad
Hero raises to $0.06, MP calls $0.06, 4 folds

Flop: ($0.15) 5c 8s 9c (2 players)
Hero bets $0.09, MP calls $0.09

Turn: ($0.33) 3s (2 players)
Hero bets $0.21, MP raises to $0.50, Hero raises to $2.50 all in, MP calls $2

River: ($5.33) 9d (2 players - 1 is all in)




-Would you guys shove in this position with this kind of board?
 
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No stats on villain... but your hoping hes bad enough to do this with overpairs.

Look at it this way your scaring off a lot of hands that you beat and crush... and now $2 to call when they beat you.

You dont need to be terrified of the board just make money from those chasinf trying to beat you.

Id have flat his raise and go from there... but perhaps JJ Qaq Kk call though so it cant be totally bad but there will be some big monsters in the midst so dont be too shocked to lose here as well.
 
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Just call essentially the min raise on the turn. If you shove, what worse hands are you hoping call here? You have maybe TTc,JJc, QQc, but it's doubtful they are min raising the turn enough.
 
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Whoops, didnt notice villains stats are missing(VP:38 PF:25 AG:0,5).

I thought the it was very unlikely for villian to have anything decent here thats why i shoved thinking he would fold most of the time.
 
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Lets break down the hand a bit and see how bad your move is.

Alright i looked a bit more into it.

We bet and show strength from UTG ... he calls... so now all of a sudden he is saying he doesnt have AA or KK.. plus we also shrink his chances from having Ax hands.

He could call very wide here but top of his range where we want calls on the turn from our shove have been cancelled preflop.

So he cant have QQ+ its very unlikely.
Less chances he has an Ax flush draw and gets sticky. Less hands our opponent can make mistakes with the worse it is for us.

we cbet with our entire range most times because we know villain can miss here and fold 2/3 of the time... now he has in his range when he calls 9x or a hand that connects to the board. If he had TT JJ we can see a raise here often. He calls which we are happy at this stage.

turn now we continue and he raises.... now this is a warning sign because of the info we gained from earlier.

He cant have overpairs or its less likely and he doesnt have an Ax flush draw minimizing that..

he still can be chasing a straight tho and there is two flush draws....

his raise looks like he doesnt want the flush to come

whether he does this with 9x or he has already a made habd like a straight a set or two pair.

I think hes raising with the latter

so now when we shove he folds his 9x and follows with hat beats u... or he calls ad gets lucky heh
 
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once he raises 50 we are against a hand that wont put another cent in unles he catches river... or we are crushed.

So flat his raise and hope hes value bet himself with his draws and go from there.

river isnt a good card for us but now if he had weak two pair we beat him.... but same rule applies he wont be paying anything unless hes beaten us.

check river and then see if we can induce a bluff but doubtful.... he will bet big and be strong
 
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Okay i understand now and i see what you mean, i noticed that i tend to overplay AA/KK and i definetely have to work on my hand reading skills.

Now that you mention the way you think on the raise of the turn makes sense to just flat him and since the 9 on the river isnt a good card for us and check the action on the river to him.
 
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Lets break down the hand a bit and see how bad your move is.

Alright i looked a bit more into it.

We bet and show strength from UTG ... he calls... so now all of a sudden he is saying he doesnt have AA or KK.. plus we also shrink his chances from having Ax hands.

He could call very wide here but top of his range where we want calls on the turn from our shove have been cancelled preflop.

So he cant have QQ+ its very unlikely.
Less chances he has an Ax flush draw and gets sticky. Less hands our opponent can make mistakes with the worse it is for us.

we cbet with our entire range most times because we know villain can miss here and fold 2/3 of the time... now he has in his range when he calls 9x or a hand that connects to the board. If he had TT JJ we can see a raise here often. He calls which we are happy at this stage.

turn now we continue and he raises.... now this is a warning sign because of the info we gained from earlier.

He cant have overpairs or its less likely and he doesnt have an Ax flush draw minimizing that..

he still can be chasing a straight tho and there is two flush draws....

his raise looks like he doesnt want the flush to come

whether he does this with 9x or he has already a made habd like a straight a set or two pair.

I think hes raising with the latter

so now when we shove he folds his 9x and follows with hat beats u... or he calls ad gets lucky heh
Thank you for putting in the time and effort!
 
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