$2 NLHE 6-max: Should I have folded?

PokerStars - $0.02 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 5 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

Hero (BB): 100 BB
UTG: 228.5 BB (VPIP: 100.00, PFR: 100.00, 3Bet Preflop: 100.00, hands: 2)
CO: 100 BB (VPIP: 50.00, PFR: 50.00, 3Bet Preflop: 100.00, Hands: 2)
BTN: 95.5 BB (VPIP: 52.94, PFR: 35.29, 3Bet Preflop: 25.00, Hands: 36)
SB: 100 BB (VPIP: 50.00, PFR: 50.00, 3Bet Preflop: -, Hands: 2)

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, Hero posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has 5:diamond: 4:diamond:

UTG raises to 3 BB, fold, BTN calls 3 BB, fold, Hero calls 2 BB

Flop: (9.5 BB, 3 players) 3:club: 2:heart: A:heart:
Hero bets 3 BB, UTG calls 3 BB, fold

Turn: (15.5 BB, 2 players) 8:club:
Hero bets 8 BB, UTG calls 8 BB

River: (31.5 BB, 2 players) 6:club:
Hero bets 23 BB, UTG raises to 46 BB, Hero calls 23 BB

UTG shows K:club: Q:club: (Flush, King High)
(Pre 61%, Flop 6%, Turn 20%)
Hero mucks 5:diamond: 4:diamond: (Straight, Six High)
(Pre 39%, Flop 94%, Turn 80%)
UTG wins 119 BB

Stop posting results for reviews bro. You can't be result oriented & won't get better answers

About the hand. Stop donking. It's not a good habit to have. And the donk here is so small I don't see the point of it actually.
On the river you got an insanely good price to call. Almost 6 to 1 so I think it's more than fine.
Also you got to start to analyse V's hand strength when betting & calling. And try to put him on a range.

Agree 100% with Alucard. Also, I would have made a pot-sized bet on the turn, there's an excellent chance villain has Ax or better, and will pay you off. If he has nothing on the turn he's probably folding to your half-pot bet anyway.

Alucard said:

Stop posting results for reviews bro. You can't be result oriented & won't get better answers

About the hand. Stop donking. It's not a good habit to have. And the donk here is so small I don't see the point of it actually.
On the river you got an insanely good price to call. Almost 6 to 1 so I think it's more than fine.
Also you got to start to analyse V's hand strength when betting & calling. And try to put him on a range.

Click to expand...

What do you exactly mean by donking? Is my bet sizing too small on the flop?

Ill stop posting results immediately.

Donk Betting:

https://www.cardschat.com/forum/cash-games-11/why-donk-betting-so-bad-151056/

What a turn of events...

If this kind of hand is happen in big tourney he will surely folded in your bets...

A lucky basted that opponent 😀

Ok so the definition of donking is betting on the flop oop when you called an open raise or 3bet preflop.

I dont get why its so bad though.
Whats the reasoning behind it?

It's usually an EV- play.

https://www.upswingpoker.com/donk-bet-lead-flop-strategy/

Donking multiway when you hand is vulnerable and you don't want to give a free card isn't bad (like 2 pairs on 2 tones board), I don't think I'd do it here because I think EP could cbet.

The problem comes when you only check air, call good hands and donk weakish pair or draws, which is what most fishes that donk do. They become very easy to read.

for the most part i prefer to 3bet or fold from the blinds. 3betting gives you a chance to take the pot down pre. especially since the btn is usually stealing with a wide range. or folding as to not play too many hands out of position.in this exact example i believe calling is a better play because it doesnt look like the utg player is trying to steal your blinds and he raise from early position so we should give him credit for a stronger range. also the btn seems to be very loose so theres not much chance of folding him out anyway.
I absolutely hate the flop bet though. youve flopped the absolute nuts but your hand is vulnerable to flush draws. you need to be betting BIG to give your opponents incorrect odds to call.theres even an A on the flop which probly hit utg range hard. you have good implied odds and you need to protect your hand.i would say minumum 3/4 pot although i would probly overbet something like 1.3 times the pot.

donk betting is usually bad but i dont fault your betting line here, just the sizing.
you should wait untill you get some replies before you post the results of the hand. you'll get better advice that way

iAmBadAtPoker said:

I absolutely hate the flop bet though. youve flopped the absolute nuts but your hand is vulnerable to flush draws. you need to be betting BIG to give your opponents incorrect odds to call.theres even an A on the flop which probly hit utg range hard. you have good implied odds and you need to protect your hand.i would say minumum 3/4 pot although i would probly overbet something like 1.3 times the pot.

Click to expand...

You have the absolute nuts and an opponent who is likely to have connected with the board. These are reasons to bet big.
But you don't want to bet so big that you drive the opponent out of the hand.

He probably isn't holding a flush draw. There is only a 23% chance opponent was dealt suited cards. Odds of opponent calling with suited cards are higher, so let's say ~35% chance he is seeing the flop with suited cards.

Of that 35%, odds that those suited cards were hearts is less than 25% (the hearts on the flop are blockers). Call it ~24%. Odds of opponent having pocket hearts on the flop: .35 * .24 = ~8%

In the unlikely event that he has two hearts, he has only a 19% chance of hitting it on the turn. Odds that he has two hearts at the flop and will hit a flush on the turn: .08*.19 = ~2%.

If the opponent calls the flop, then we can narrow his range considerably.

I failed calculus, so my math credentials are not strong, but I think that's correct.

Thanks for your replies guys. Im learning a lot. Especially with links like alucards!

PokerStars - 15/30 Ante 4 NL - Holdem - 8 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

CO: 41.27 BB (VPIP: 25.00, PFR: 16.67, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 25)
BTN: 103.3 BB (VPIP: 16.00, PFR: 4.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 25)
SB: 61.9 BB (VPIP: 11.76, PFR: 10.20, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 52)
BB: 45.17 BB (VPIP: 11.54, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 26)
UTG: 17.33 BB (VPIP: 32.00, PFR: 16.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 25)
UTG+1: 45.87 BB (VPIP: 16.00, PFR: 12.50, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 25)
MP: 83.63 BB (VPIP: 3.23, PFR: 3.23, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 31)
Hero (MP+1): 162.57 BB

8 players post ante of 0.13 BB, SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 2.57 BB) Hero has T:club: J:club:

fold, fold, fold, Hero raises to 2.2 BB, CO calls 2.2 BB, fold, fold, fold

Flop: (6.97 BB, 2 players) 9:diamond: 8:diamond: Q:spade:

Spoiler

Hero bets 5 BB

This is a tournament hand, but I have a question that is somewhat related to the hand in this topic.
Betting on the flop is not donking in this case right? Since I open raised preflop? Would you stil check the flop or would you raise it?

Not a donk bet, because you just continued your aggression. It's called continuation betting, or CB, or c-bet on short.

A donk bet is betting into the raiser. I would recommend the Cbet with the flush draw on the board.

Preflop is a little meh. Not sure that you are going to turn this hand into a winner long term calling out of position here versus an EP raiser. I am only calling here if it is a really weak recreational type player.

Anyways, postflop I prefer a check/raise here instead of this weak donk bet line. Most people are going to CBet this flop a huge amount of the time. Check/raise allows you to get more money in the pot, obviously what you want when you have the nuts

BlackRain79 said:

Preflop is a little meh. Not sure that you are going to turn this hand into a winner long term calling out of position here versus an EP raiser. I am only calling here if it is a really weak recreational type player.

Anyways, postflop I prefer a check/raise here instead of this weak donk bet line. Most people are going to CBet this flop a huge amount of the time. Check/raise allows you to get more money in the pot, obviously what you want when you have the nuts

Click to expand...

Yeah I wouldnt play it again like I did at the moment.

Would you fold any sc oop vs utg or would you call/3bet some higher sc? Where do you draw the line? Lets say the utg has 20/15 vpip pfr.