$2 NLHE 6-max: Set vs a possible fish

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27 hands against this guy with stats of 70/0. Limped quite often, called quite often. My only read was that he played every ace, every king, every suited hand.

I wanted to extract the most value from the set. What do you think?

pokerstars - $0.02 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 3: http://www.pokertracker.com

CO: $0.64
BTN: $0.80
SB: $4.07
BB: $1.91
Hero (UTG): $2.16
MP: $5.21

SB posts SB $0.01, BB posts BB $0.02

Pre Flop: ($0.03) Hero has [3s] [3d]

Hero raises to $0.08, fold, CO calls $0.08, fold, fold, fold

Flop: ($0.19, 2 players) [3h] [8s] [7d]
Hero checks, CO bets $0.02, Hero calls $0.02

Flopped a set and played the flop like I play most boards that don't have a high card. So no c-bet here was on purpose, I want him to have initiative and the flop is not threatning at all.

Turn: ($0.23, 2 players) [Kc]
Hero checks, CO bets $0.08, Hero calls $0.08

Now I assume he has a king so I call to shove the river if there's not extra K.

River: ($0.39, 2 players) [Jc]
Hero bets $0.48, CO calls $0.46 and is all-in

And here I overbet the pot assuming he does have a K and that my bet will look like a big fat bluff.

Does this line make any sense to you or am I fancy playing here?
 
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This guy isnt a possible fish, he is a fish. Bet pot (or close to) on the flop and put him in on the turn. Dont slowplay hands, if you have a big hand bet it.
 
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27 hands against this guy with stats of 70/0. Limped quite often, called quite often. My only read was that he played every ace, every king, every suited hand.

I wanted to extract the most value from the set. What do you think?

You played it badly.

Bet Bet and Bet

There are no arguments for not betting all 3 streets.

Check calling the flop and turn and then shoving river is what fish do.
 
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I think you are lucky to get that kind of shove called. In the micros lots of people do that slowplay to river and shove with monsters. Im always thankful they save me money :D.

Dont think a fish would notice you dont cbet small flops. I would bet all 3 streets or at least raise turn. Waiting to the river to get your value will waste a lot of good hands
 
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Yes I understand it was fishy and way too much fancy, that's exactly why I asked. Looking at the other hands I don't even know why he called since that's not my betting pattern.

He had a K so he would probably call my bet anyway. Thank you for your review of the hand.
 
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can u elaborate on this?

I assumed he has a K because of the betting size and the fact that he played any K and any A.

If another K hit he could have a full house bigger than my 3 full of Ks and I wouldn't shove but place a smaller value bet.

I'm guessing it doesn't make any sense also...
 
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theres plenty of Kx's that wont make a FH that he will be valueing the same as a FH. and he has like 25bb's left. dont make a small value bet
 
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The only one he MAY have is KJ which is very unlikely. You shouldn't be afraid of every potential hand that can beat you because for one hand that can beat you there is like a gazillion that you beat and would still get his stack. I would be praying he hit the trip kings :D
 
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theres plenty of Kx's that wont make a FH that he will be valueing the same as a FH. and he has like 25bb's left. dont make a small value bet

So the shove is correct, but the c/c in the other streets isn't?
 
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So the shove is correct, but the c/c in the other streets isn't?

Getting the other to go all-in is correct but how you got to that point is wrong. Lets imagine that the other player had 100bb, if you play the hand the same way as you did you would struggle to get the other player to commit their stack.
 
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btw am i missing something?why are people talking about a full house, it is not possible here.
 
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Thanks, I (think I) got it.

The full house discussion is if the river card was a K and not a J.
 
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The full house discussion is if the river card was a K and not a J.

This wouldnt even concern me in the slightest as it is so unlikely, it would be more likely that villain had three kings here than a full house and we have that beat.
 
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You played it badly.

Bet Bet and Bet

There are no arguments for not betting all 3 streets.

Check calling the flop and turn and then shoving river is what fish do.

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