$2 NLHE 6-max: River decision

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ScottishMatt

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Villain is 83/12/6. Dunno how much he slowplays. Isn't too passive postflop though, will generally bet when he has something.

poker stars $0.01/$0.02 No Limit Hold'em - 5 players - View hand 2219859
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Hero (UTG): $2.37
CO: $6.37
BTN: $2.34
SB: $5.49
BB: $1.02

Pre Flop: ($0.03) Hero is UTG with A
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A
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Hero raises to $0.06, 1 fold, BTN calls $0.06, 2 folds

Flop: ($0.15) 4
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Q
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Hero bets $0.08, BTN calls $0.08

Turn: ($0.31) 3
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Hero bets $0.20, BTN calls $0.20

River: ($0.71) 2
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Hero bets $0.54, BTN raises to $2 all in, Hero calls $1.46
 
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Think we can bet bigger on all the streets. Someone this loose/passive is probably chasing any draw any Qx etc. so we can bet as much at 80% on each street. River check-raise is probs a fold.
 
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Ye I would be close to potting each street against this guy. Don't see how you can fold river without specific read, he could have anything, so call.
 
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it looks like a fold to me. hes not ever doing this with air. 2 pair minimum.
 
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@yoshimi: thats the problem .he plays everything therefor he could have alot of things that can beat us. just cause someone has a high vpip doesnt mean that they dont wake up with monsters. and also his aggression is a sign of strength. why doesnt he just flat the river bet when he obviously sees that were value betting. we raised pre,bet flop,bet turn and value bet river and he goes over the top.

If this isnt alarming,i dont know what is. ( im not saying i fold this very often but villains play here is extremely strong. i dont see him doing this with QA). KK is best case scenario for us here IMO.
 
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pot every street and call

if he shows you 33/22, cry a bit inside and keep grinding
 
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Exactly the same opinion as others. Pot or close to pot on flop/turn/river.
Then of course call, because you would be pot comitted and he can have just KK or top pair with good kicker.

Other option is check/raise on turn (if you think he is aggresive player). If he goes all in, after your check/raise, only there I would consider fold.
 
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@yoshimi: thats the problem .he plays everything therefor he could have alot of things that can beat us. just cause someone has a high vpip doesnt mean that they dont wake up with monsters. and also his aggression is a sign of strength. why doesnt he just flat the river bet when he obviously sees that were value betting. we raised pre,bet flop,bet turn and value bet river and he goes over the top.

If this isnt alarming,i dont know what is. ( im not saying i fold this very often but villains play here is extremely strong. i dont see him doing this with QA). KK is best case scenario for us here IMO.

Also alot of junk in his range, your trying to assign a range of hands to a donkey who can do this with anything, nothing OP can do about this hand, also it's 2nl. 2nl.Villain is just so bad you can't fold Imo.
 
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Also alot of junk in his range, your trying to assign a range of hands to a donkey who can do this with anything, nothing OP can do about this hand, also it's 2nl. 2nl.Villain is just so bad you can't fold Imo.

Disagree. We can fold when loose passive players get aggro otr at any stake. CBA to check the odds but we're behind often enough to fold here.

If we'd potted it on every street however we could've jammed the river with no problem, and someone like this will hero call with Tpwk.
 
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Disagree. We can fold when loose passive players get aggro otr at any stake. CBA to check the odds but we're behind often enough to fold here.

If we'd potted it on every street however we could've jammed the river with no problem, and someone like this will hero call with Tpwk.

I'm going to a complete u-turn on this one and agree with you now. Just thought that at 2nl, villains could have anything.
 
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Hey Matt, did you have the final outcome on this hand? What did the villain have? I can see why people think folding is a good option but I would struggle to lay them down as well.
 
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Villain showed up with Q4. Kinda meh but whatever, pretty sure I took it back off him a few hands later anyway.
 
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@yoshimi: thats the problem .he plays everything therefor he could have alot of things that can beat us. just cause someone has a high vpip doesnt mean that they dont wake up with monsters. and also his aggression is a sign of strength. why doesnt he just flat the river bet when he obviously sees that were value betting. we raised pre,bet flop,bet turn and value bet river and he goes over the top.

If this isnt alarming,i dont know what is. ( im not saying i fold this very often but villains play here is extremely strong. i dont see him doing this with QA). KK is best case scenario for us here IMO.


Just remember theres 2 reasons ppl will re-raise the river... To fold the best hand or they have the nuts.
 
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Flop is drawy and turn is a brick and 2NL players are lol, so I overbet bomb all 3 streets. I can get called down easily by AQ/KQ/KK and even worse.
 
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Just remember theres 2 reasons ppl will re-raise the river... To fold the best hand or they have the nuts.

Not at 2nl buddy. When fish reraise river, it's almost always the latter. Almost is key here.

I would lean towards a fold here, but that's nitty old me. I think against a random 2nl fish this is very close. Just flip a coin and decide.
 
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Yeah I would fold here, when fish re raise like that on the river they usually have it...bet more on the flop/turn though
 
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