$2 NLHE 6-max: River a set on draw heavy board..

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So I open the button and decide to check behind on the flop as I thought there is no real advantage to betting here apart from building a pot in which I'm sure any spade is calling. So when he leads out on the turn, I'm unsure of what the best play is here, either? I elected to just call so I had some pot control..

We hit a set which I think is actually quite irrelevant here or is it?
He then leads out on the river which looks very value you like but. I think he could hold a king but wasn't wanting to bloat the pot on the flop so elected to c/c if I bet.. The river card completes some straight draws but what's our play here? Do you just call/muck most of the time or is there ever an argument to even raise our set here - I'm unsure if he calls a raise even with Top pair here and only getting called by better or even raised again. I guess Q,J with a spade just got there and other combos..so what do you think.

I wasn't sure on how I should of played this hand exactly...so thoughts on each street and what you would do, would be great.




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saw flop

UTG ($1.02)
MP ($2.58)
Hero (Button) ($2.16)
SB ($1.35)
BB ($2)

Preflop: Hero is Button with 10
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, 10
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2 folds, Hero bets $0.06, SB calls $0.05, 1 fold

Flop: ($0.14) K
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, 9
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, 6
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(2 players)
SB checks, Hero checks

Turn: ($0.14) 8
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(2 players)
SB bets $0.08, Hero calls $0.08

River: ($0.30) 10
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(2 players)
SB bets $0.16, Hero ??
 
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I think I'd raise the turn small, hoping for a free showdown and getting his draws to pay a bit more.

As played, Im calling the river.
 
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I think I'd raise the turn small, hoping for a free showdown and getting his draws to pay a bit more.

As played, Im calling the river.

Ok thanks..

Any reasoning in ever raising the river or we only ever getting called by better here? Maybe a king would pay us of a little?
 
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I think I'd raise the turn small, hoping for a free showdown and getting his draws to pay a bit more.

Our hand is nowere near strong enough for this. Loads of hands have us crushed, the hands we beat have between 12-15outs.
 
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I play everything the same so far.

River is close. We're calling in the hope twopair or maybe even a busted draw do this. We need to be right 25% of the time....
I think I call. It's close.
 
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I think I'd raise the turn small, hoping for a free showdown and getting his draws to pay a bit more.

As played, Im calling the river.

What kinds of situations call for a play like that? I've seen people do it but I have no idea when I'd use it.

Call river btw
 
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Honestly I think it's fine as played (with 1 exception) assuming you called the river. I really can't see any value in raising.

The 1 exception is your open raise size. Again forget 3x opens at these stakes. 4x, AT LEAST, every time. Here we know the SB is bad (stack size) so we can conclude he's very likely to call with a wide range from the blinds. Make him pay for that mistake by raising bigger preflop!
 
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Honestly I think it's fine as played (with 1 exception) assuming you called the river. I really can't see any value in raising.

The 1 exception is your open raise size. Again forget 3x opens at these stakes. 4x, AT LEAST, every time. Here we know the SB is bad (stack size) so we can conclude he's very likely to call with a wide range from the blinds. Make him pay for that mistake by raising bigger preflop!

Yeah..I just flatted the river in the end.

Yeah I just saw a previous post from my other HH thread, I will start opening 4x see how I get on. Hope action doesn't slow down;)
 
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Yeah because bad players who call with ATC care if they're calling 6 vs 8 cents to see a flop!!!
 
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You know if we raise to 24c on the turn, its the same price as calling twice here. Plus we don't rely on him to bluff his draws on the river to get value.
 
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You know if we raise to 24c on the turn, its the same price as calling twice here. Plus we don't rely on him to bluff his draws on the river to get value.

If we hadn't hit our set I'm folding the river.
I see the turn raise as putting money in when we have less than 50% equity. Lots of the draws we're getting 'value' from have around 30% equity. It isn't going to take much for the 30 combos of KQ-KT, the dozens of made flush combos, perhaps another 9 89 combos, 6 JJ combos and 9 set combos to drag us down.

There are at least 56 combos that crush us.
There are 8 potential :as4: flush draws that have between 25-33% equity.


You can even throw in a few Qx flush draws 7xs maybe even a few 9x hands and we're still not even close. Heck even all 8 As draws is pushing it as maybe this guy folds A2o.
 
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