$2 NLHE 6-max: Pot odds- a bad call?

Villain stats 44/3 but I had only 20 hands on him.

I am wondering whether I had the correct odds to call the shove here. When he shoved I thought he must have AA/KK/QQ/JT/AQ/KQ, now I see that possible (but unlikely) other hands are 99 and 88. Due to the lack of preflop raise, I thought the most likely hand was JT. I called hoping to fill up.

I'm not very good at working out pot odds, especially in the heat of the moment but I guess a simple calculation like this could have been done. I have 4 outs to hit on turn or river, so using 2-4 rule, I have 16% chance of hitting (~5/1 odds). It cost me 1.10 to win a pot of 3.10 (~3/1 odds).

I think that's about right?? Does this mean the call was not profitable? And how do you factor in the possibility that he actually does have a weaker hand like QJ or TT?

Poker Stars - $0.01/$0.02 No Limit Hold'em (6 players)
Poker Stars Hand Converter Tool from CardsChat.com

SB Hero: $1.54
BB: $5.57
UTG: $0.37
MP: $2.10
CO: $2.60
BTN: $2

Pre-flop: ($0.03) Hero is SB and dealt
2 folds, CO calls $0.02, BTN folds, Hero calls $0.01, BB checks

Flop: ($0.06) (3 players)
Hero bets $0.06, BB folds, CO raises to $0.12, Hero raises to $0.42, CO raises to $2.58 (All-in), Hero calls $1.10 (All-in), CO returned $1.06

Turn: ($3.10) (2 players)

River: ($3.10) (2 players)

and before someone says it, I know I shouldn't be completing in the small blind with 89o

buy in full

use an equity calculator such as pokerstove or propokertools.

Don't put villain on a single hand, try to estimate his range.

I'm going to ignore QQ-AA because he'd raise preflop.

I'll give him a weighted range of this:
JT -- all combos, 16 combos
AQ -- all combos, 16 combos
KQ -- all combos, 16 combos
99 -- 1 combo (9c9d)
88 -- 1 combo (8s8h)
QJ -- heavily discounted to QJs, 4 combos
QT -- discounted, 4 combos
76 -- heavily discounted, random semibluff 76ss

We have 50.35% against this range. This is probably conservative, no reason really to discount QJ/QT really. Never folding.

http://www.propokertools.com/simula...,+JT,+KQ,+99,+98,88,+QJs,+QTs,+7s6s&s=classic

Cool, thanks man, I'm trying to get better at putting them on ranges

Yeah I always do buy in for 100BB. I don't use the auto-top-up though, I just top up myself for $1 when it gets lower than about $1.40.

So do you have this software running while you are playing, or do you just use it afterwards to analyse the hands? Seems like it would take too long to use during play.

micromachine said:

Cool, thanks man, I'm trying to get better at putting them on ranges

Yeah I always do buy in for 100BB. I don't use the auto-top-up though, I just top up myself for $1 when it gets lower than about $1.40.

So do you have this software running while you are playing, or do you just use it afterwards to analyse the hands? Seems like it would take too long to use during play.

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Use auto top off.

baudib1 said:

I'm going to ignore QQ-AA because he'd raise preflop.

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tbh I'd add like half the combos of KK+ in since people are retarded and like to trap. We're already stacking but this just makes it clearer.

ChuckTs said:

tbh I'd add like half the combos of KK+ in since people are retarded and like to trap. We're already stacking but this just makes it clearer.

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this. I got a mate who plays micros who only ever flats KK or AA so you could technically add KK+ with a bit less weight

If you're playing hands like this in the first place, when you flop one of the best hands you can hope to flop, you gotta be happy getting it all in here. If we weren't then the problem with the hand would be hand selection in the first place. You dont need to be calculating pot odds compared to your outs because we should think we have the best hand here, the extra outs is just a bonus. The fish in the hand is definitely capable of getting all in with a good amount of top pair hands imo, nh.