$2 NLHE 6-max: Never playing AQ again.

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pokerstars Zoom Hand #176010640984: Hold'em No Limit ($0.01/$0.02) - 2017/09/23 7:51:07 ET
Table 'Halley' 6-max Seat #1 is the button
Seat 1: beecooll ($9.89 in chips)
Seat 2: Hero ($3.58 in chips)
Seat 3: Jano7026 ($1 in chips)
Seat 4: AggBee95 ($2.09 in chips)
Seat 5: Sasha307500 ($1.97 in chips)
Seat 6: Barni_Lutsk ($2.06 in chips)
Hero: posts small blind $0.01
Jano7026: posts big blind $0.02
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Hero [Qh Ad]
AggBee95: folds
Sasha307500: folds
Barni_Lutsk: folds
beecooll: raises $0.04 to $0.06
Hero: raises $0.14 to $0.20
Jano7026: calls $0.18
beecooll: calls $0.14
*** FLOP *** [6h Ac Ts]
Hero: bets $0.44
Jano7026: calls $0.44
beecooll: raises $9.25 to $9.69 and is all-in
Hero: calls $2.94 and is all-in
Jano7026: calls $0.36 and is all-in
Uncalled bet ($6.31) returned to beecooll
*** TURN *** [6h Ac Ts] [2d]
*** RIVER *** [6h Ac Ts 2d] [7h]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
Hero: shows [Qh Ad] (a pair of Aces)
beecooll: shows [As Kh] (a pair of Aces - King kicker)
beecooll collected $4.97 from side pot
Jano7026: shows [9h Jd] (high card Ace)
beecooll collected $2.90 from main pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $8.16 Main pot $2.90. Side pot $4.97. | Rake $0.29
Board [6h Ac Ts 2d 7h]
Seat 1: beecooll (button) showed [As Kh] and won ($7.87) with a pair of Aces
Seat 2: Hero (small blind) showed [Qh Ad] and lost with a pair of Aces
Seat 3: Jano7026 (big blind) showed [9h Jd] and lost with high card Ace
Seat 4: AggBee95 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: Sasha307500 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 6: Barni_Lutsk folded before Flop (didn't bet)
 
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PokerStars Zoom No-Limit Hold'em, $0.02 BB (6 handed) - PokerStars Converter Tool from http://www.flopturnriver.com/

Button ($9.89)
Hero (SB) ($3.58)
BB ($1)
UTG ($2.09)
MP ($1.97)
CO ($2.06)

Preflop: Hero is SB with Q
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, A
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3 folds, Button raises to $0.06, Hero raises to $0.20, BB calls $0.18, Button calls $0.14

Flop: ($0.60) 6
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, A
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, 10
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(3 players)
Hero bets $0.44, BB calls $0.44, Button raises to $9.69 (All-In), Hero calls $2.94 (All-In), BB calls $0.36 (All-In)

Turn: ($8.16) 10
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(3 players, 3 all-in)

River: ($8.16) 2
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(3 players, 3 all-in)

Total pot: $8.16 | Rake: $0.29

Results below:
Button had A
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, K
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(one pair, Aces).
Hero had Q
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, A
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(one pair, Aces).
BB had 9
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, J
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(high card, Ace).
Outcome: Button won $7.87
 
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I'll give you a much easier solution.
Never play zoom again.
At least right now
 
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You should start to use a hand converter to make the hands more legible

you should also give some reads/stats on your opponents

if you don't have a HUD you should stop playing zoom and start playing regular tables so that you can get reads on your opponents.

why are you calling off 175bb on the flop with TP2K.

once you get raised you should always question whether you are likely to still be ahead . what if he showed up with 66 or TT here
 
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Why what is wrong with zoom? If I had AK I would've been fine lol. I just like zoom because I can play more hands. I regret not leaving before being dealt AQ because I just raked in a nice big pot with AA what a bummer it happens.
I tried playing at the regular tables and didn't like it as much for some reason. It was too slow and I had to play 2 tables at once for it not to be so boring and it made me lose focus. I guess I could try again. I lost so much already playing zoom probably $80 so far I don't know why is zoom so much harder to beat?
I don't know what a HUD is and how can I get a hand converter?
 
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zoom is terrible in a lot of aspects IMO. There are winning players in zoom but they've developed their strategies after some studying & practice.

For one, players always fold easily to find better hands to play with. Usually pockets, Aces with good kickers & etc. So think about what would happen when all of the player pool do this. Everybody will always play a hand that has more of a chance to win. So they'd bet big & bluff big overestimate their hands a lot ver easily.
This is once reason why you couldn't lay down AQ as well.

Another one is that you get no player readings what so ever in zoom. Unless you are using a HUD & got a good enough hand sample against them. Still in a psychological point of view you'd be blinded.
In normal rings you can use the bet sizing's, betting patterns and the time someone takes to make decisions to your advantage because you have some history at least for 15 minutes together or so in the same table. And also your table image comes into play
I very much use these things to my advantage to get a reading of a v's hand strength compared to mine.

If you lost that much at 2NL then you got some serious leaks IMO.

HUD means - Heads up display

You can find one month free trials of many then invest in a once to your needs.
If you are a grinder a hud is a must have.

Play around 3,4 tables normal 6max & you won't be bored

hand converters are automatically included in HUDs.
 
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I thought I was pretty good at zoom before I started playing with real money lol. I made 5 million play chips no problem but with real money I can't make a cent. Comes to show how much people take play money seriously not very many at all. I have been playing zoom poker for a few years with just play money and about a year now with real money. I try to read a lot on google on tips for playing poker and I've been on a couple different sites including cardschat. It's just hard to remember everything. Poker is tough all the bad beats lol.
 
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I did very simple things to improve my game.
I studied, posted hands here to get advice & watched some of the streamers play.
I still do.

Checkout pokerstars' pokerschool online cash game course for a basic understanding.
Read through John A's polished poker study group here on CC
Post hands and get advice & stop making the same mistakes again
Stop playing zoom
Use a HUD
And start a journal thread if you wish to note down your performances

I struggled a lot playing cash when I began. I even remember the first time Keith bashed & highly criticized one of my plays.
But with time & putting a lot of work, 2NL has become super easy for me. Many thanks to the people who taught me a lot here on CC.
But still I avoid Zoom.
 
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and you started to listen to terry:) jk lol (wanna rail,im in the 5.50 pro ko now;))(6-max)
 
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and you started to listen to terry:) jk lol (wanna rail,im in the 5.50 pro ko now;))

No it's no joke!
You seriously have helped me alot in the tournament division. And always a pleasure to have your company
I'll rail you :D
 
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Alright thanks I'm done with zoom.
So is AQ good at regular tables or will I still see AK a lot just wondering? I just don't want AQ to be a huge leak in my game because I lose many times.
 
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Good idea,drop the zoom;)
 
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No it's no joke!
You seriously have helped me alot in the tournament division. And always a pleasure to have your company
I'll rail you :D
Ty Alu,your too kind:D With my limited knowledge of poker,i try my best;)
 
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Damn,i`m never playing AK ever again,lol :shot:
 
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I see you got knocked out. Nice run & good profit :congrats:
 
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I see you got knocked out. Nice run & good profit :congrats:
Thx,buddy:) $26.83,not bad. (hmm,jus enough to play WCOOP,lol) (can i borrow 17ct?) Baaaaaaaaa,lol
 
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AQ is a good hand. Just don't play it as the nuts in a 3 bet pot....
 
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When the button shoves here you have a really difficult decision IMO. You have no information about the opponent but his stack size at least implies that he often had a strong hand when he put it in.
It's a bad play by your opponent though because on this board only a few worse hands can call his big bet. This is almost never a bluff. Sometimes you might run into AJ,At but I personally believe even at regular tables your opponent will have Ak or a set more often.
I wouldn't worry about the bb though since his stack size and his cold call oop suggest he is a fish.
 
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bigest fallacy you may succumb to is thinking that you win because you played a hand well and lost because you played badly .you can learn as much from posting hands that you won but weren't sure about as from hands you lost.
huds that give a free months trial are
holdem manager
pokertracker4
drivehud
jivaro
xeester
hand2note
by the time you've worked through those you will know which you prefer and should be able to buy one out of your winnings.
 
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Why what is wrong with zoom? If I had AK I would've been fine lol. I just like zoom because I can play more hands. I regret not leaving before being dealt AQ because I just raked in a nice big pot with AA what a bummer it happens.
I tried playing at the regular tables and didn't like it as much for some reason. It was too slow and I had to play 2 tables at once for it not to be so boring and it made me lose focus. I guess I could try again. I lost so much already playing zoom probably $80 so far I don't know why is zoom so much harder to beat?
I don't know what a HUD is and how can I get a hand converter?

Even though I feel like you made a loose call, I think you are being too results oriented. No starting hand is invulnerable. Aces crack all the time. The way you make money over the long-haul is riding out the swings and understanding that if your All-in equity is 60%, you will still lose the pot 4 out of 10 times, but this doesn't always even out until you've played a shitload of poker
 
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