$2 NLHE 6-max: Monster draw vs donk from donk

PokerStars - €0.02 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 2 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 3

BB: €1.28
Hero (SB): €2.27

Hero posts SB €0.01, BB posts BB €0.02

Pre Flop: (€0.03) Hero has J:heart: Q:heart:

Hero raises to €0.08, BB calls €0.06

Flop: (€0.16, 2 players) 9:heart: T:spade: 6:heart:
BB bets €0.12, Hero??

Villain is 35/5 over ~70 hands. Everyone left the table and we're heads up and this hand happens. I never saw him donking so I have no idea if he has a hand or a draw or air. I have a monster draw and I'm thinking raise > shoving > calling.

Thoughts?

You forgot folding

I agree raising>shoving>calling. I would go for a min raise to like 25c otherwise you might scare him off. And it might look like you are bluffing and cause him to spew

To be honest I considered a min raise. My problem is that passive players tend to donk sets and if he shoves we're a 40% dog according to PokerStove. I'm not sure I'd be happy to call a shove from a passive player without the right odds which I think a min raise would not give me. In other words, min raising here could be that weird "raising to know we are at" and I really don't know where we are at!

On the other hand a set is a very small % of his range and he never put me on a difficult position. Don't remember ever getting shoved or raised by him and although I was multitabling I never saw much aggression from him.

Let's say that he had no draws, only one pair or higher. I thought at the time that if he had no draws, only a made hand he would call either a raise or a shove and I'd expect to be ahead that range. I just stoved it and we are 60% ahead.

Real time we can't do this stuff that's why I posted. Calling seems out of the question. What will he call with? Are we ahead of his calling range?

How many HU hands have you played vs them?

Fwiw when people get HU they play way diff and that usually inlcudes a lot more donk bets. I'd raise to .50 here and probs call a shove depending on villain. We need real reads, a 35/5 doesnt really tell us much when we get to HU except we know they really suck.

If they flat the raise and the turn doesn't improve our hand we still have position so Id probs check back any card <7.

True real time you cant work all this stuff out on the spot but an open ended straight and flush draw and over cards gives a huge amount of possible outs. So I would be happy to call a shove. I wouldn't worry about the sets as they only make up a small part of his possible range AND you still have a good chance to beat them.

If they are shoving their whole range then yes, sets are a small part of their range.

If they are only shoving sets then we dont have the equity to call. Which is why it depends on the villain. VS ~95% of villains at 2nl im probs not folding this to a shove tho.

RVladimiro said:

Thoughts?

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BB: €1.28
Hero (SB): €2.27

Hero posts SB €0.01, BB posts BB €0.02

Pre Flop: (€0.03) Hero has J♥ Q♥

Hero raises to €0.08, BB calls €0.06

Flop: (€0.16, 2 players) 9♥ T♠ 6♥
BB bets €0.12, Hero raises to €0.32, BB calls

Turn: (€0.70, 2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets €0.56, BB calls €0.56

River: (€1.82, 2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets €0.32, BB calls €0.32 and is all-in

This'd be my line. I'm wanting to get him all in with him, and would call a flop shove. Maths may be wrong with stacksize but you get the idea

How many HU hands have you played vs them?

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A couple and no reads at all.

If they are only shoving sets then we dont have the equity to call. Which is why it depends on the villain. VS ~95% of villains at 2nl im probs not folding this to a shove tho.

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That's the problem, I never saw him shoving. If he did shove, what was he shoving with?

@jbbb: why would you never consider a shove against this guy? Because he would more likely call a raise than a shove?

Yeah you're even around 40% against a set. I think it was you looking for more situations to get aggressive with right? Well this is one of them. I would put in a big ass raise and call a shove.

Ya, lol. Didint see their stack size. We cant fold this to a shove when we raise OTF.

jbbb said:

I'm wanting to get him all in with him, and would call a flop shove.

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RVladimiro said:

@jbbb: why would you never consider a shove against this guy? Because he would more likely call a raise than a shove?

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Huh? You want to shove ~$1.10 into a ~$0.25 pot?

Line that jbb posted is what I'd do most of the time. If he's really really stationy just calling is fine.

Yeah this is related to the aggression thing, Cafeman. I'm looking for spots like this to post and I'm sorting a way of calculating the odds to call quickly.

Worst case scenario is a set so we'd need to leave behind ~$0.99 to call a shove given his stack. So any raise $0.30 would give us odds to call the shove.

Last question, assuming he is a major calling station, doesn't shove and that the board gets paired and/or we don't hit our draw, should we bet the river?

yes, I've found in HU spots there are times when I like to leave that extra chunk in my stack for river shove because they don't want to fold flop or turn but will give up on river with stuff like AK, KJ, 76, 86, Axhh.