$2 NLHE 6-max: KK vs. Preflop 4bet shove

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Hello everybody!


First time posting here, nice to be part of this community.
I would be interested to know what's the correct decision in this situation:
UTG raises, everybody folds, I re-raise 4x out of position in BB, villain 4-bet shoves. In this situation, taking account of villains stats, was folding a justified move, or was I supposed to simply call?


PokerStars - $0.02 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 5 players
BTN: 100.5 BB (VPIP: 33.33, PFR: 16.67, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, hands: 7)
SB: 284 BB (VPIP: 31.86, PFR: 23.01, 3Bet Preflop: 9.09, Hands: 115)
Hero (BB): 120 BB
UTG: 96.5 BB (VPIP: 5.88, PFR: 5.88, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 34)
CO: 50 BB (VPIP: 60.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 5)

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, Hero posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has K:club: K:heart:

UTG raises to 3 BB, fold, fold, fold, Hero raises to 12 BB, UTG raises to 96.5 BB and is all-in, fold

UTG wins 24.5 BB
 
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I can see why you balked at calling vs a 6/6 nit.I still think this is a call though with only 34 hands on villain.We don't know yet that they cant do this with JJ QQ AK or worse.
 
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Yes I know there are only 34 hands, and it's maybe a nitty fold. But after I'm 3-betting an UTG open against a clearly very tight villain, he should assume that I have KK+ or AKs, or maybe QQ or AKo.

Now what could villain have? KK are very unlikely.
AA can be, and can explain such a confident and rushed shove to a 12BB bet.
Assumind that I have KK+, AK, his QQ and AK would be a ca. 40% equity underdog, why would he shove? If I had a bit looser 3-bet range would be villain the equity underdog.

And I was on a cold streak this session, didn't play many hands, if he used a HUD, he easily thought that I'm a nit.
I just can't see other logical explanaition for his rushed shove other than an AA.

Thanks for your reply.
Any other ideas from experienced players?
 
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I would consider a snap 4bet shove as quite weak,villain started the hand with 96.5bb so likely a fish and they might just be tilting off their case money.If villain had AA they might take a little longer to consider whether to 4bet smaller or shove.
 
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Call. We can not give you credit for being a nit for 34 hands.
 
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Shoud be a call,the rest is just cooler.
 
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With around or less than 100bb you should call KK. If you both were like 250bb+ and you had some serious infos that he is only shoving AA jn that situation you can fold then
 
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I play full ring, not 6-max, where things are a bit tighter than 6-max tables.

With VPIP/PFR 6/6 vs a villain who 4bet-shoves from UTG, there are solid possibilities that you really were against AA, so the fold is good. But we don't muck KK anytime we face a shove pre, even if it comes from a very tight player. It's instinct, history vs the villain, reads, etc.
 
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34 hands probably not enough to justify UTG is a super nit and I would put AK in his 4bet shove range apart from KK,AA so still a call for ~100bb. Logical explanation would be UTG does not like to play AK postflop so choose to play it aggressively pre-flop to maximize fold equity and see 5 cards if called.
 
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