$2 NLHE 6-max: K,K action on river?

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RamdeeBen

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Ok vilian I had some HH from. He doesn't seem overly aggro..I managed to stack him A,K<K,10 after I 3bet from the SB with K,10 (He opens quite a fair few buttons) and he flat called from the button. Flop was a two pair for me and I value you bet all the way down to the river when a 10 hit so I had a FH. He called it off in the end..

Now, he seems like someone who just calls,call,calls from previous hands, doesn't really raise and I 3bet with Kings here and he flat calls again..

Is it possible he could be playing Aces slow here or have something like with a Q in it? A,Q for example..it's weird because he leads out on the river after calling down all streets. I'm getting priced in to call but I don't think I'm good just because of the way he called down. I think he must hold a queen or aces here..I can't see him playing this with like Jacks could he??

Thoughts on the hand please! I ended up folding btw...miight look really weak but this is the first time I've seen him bet + I was sure I was beat here and didn't just wanna pay him off like that.


Looking at it now, maybe the check/fold was weak and maybe I should of led out on the river? The only problem is because of the board...if he raises me I end up folding anyway Should I of just called his river bet?


Sooo basically, best river action? Maybe it should be bet/fold?

pokerstars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.02 BB (6 handed) - PokerStars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

saw flop

UTG ($1.61)
MP ($4.11)
CO ($2)
Button ($1)
Hero (SB) ($7.02)
BB ($0.80)

Preflop: Hero is SB with K
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, K
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1 fold, MP bets $0.04, 2 folds, Hero raises to $0.14, 1 fold, MP calls $0.10

Flop: ($0.30) 6
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, Q
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, 6
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(2 players)
Hero bets $0.22, MP calls $0.22

Turn: ($0.74) Q
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(2 players)
Hero bets $0.44, MP calls $0.44

River: ($1.62) 8
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(2 players)
Hero checks, MP bets $0.75, Hero folds

Total pot: $1.62 | Rake: $0.06
 
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Looking at the HH again, I wonder if my turn bet looked quite weak and small and then the check on the river made it look like I literally had nothing and there's a high chance he can bluff me off the hand.. ufm..I'm hating the way I played this more and more now..
 
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I'm fine with chec/folding. I don't think against this guy b/f is optimal
 
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I'm fine with chec/folding. I don't think against this guy b/f is optimal
b/f is without a doubt optimal against someone who only calls.

Fold if he finds the raise button only.
 
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b/f is without a doubt optimal against someone who only calls.

Fold if he finds the raise button only.
What would the purpose of betitng the river be? Better hand's dont fold and a range you can value bet is next to non-existant. Based on him being fairly passive thus far he's unlikely to try and take pot without something decent so it's fairly safe to check it over to him.
 
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He calls with all pairs 77-JJ (30 combos), occasionally calls with A high and never bluff raises. Easy value bet.
 
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Probably calling river out of curiosity. However I think i'd probably b/f in first place. He aint raising without a Q or 6.
 
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He calls with all pairs 77-JJ (30 combos), occasionally calls with A high and never bluff raises. Easy value bet.

I wish I had of led out on the river as I left myself open to getting bet at on the river.

Probably calling river out of curiosity. However I think i'd probably b/f in first place. He aint raising without a Q or 6.

Deffo seems b/f is the best option here in most cases. And Yeah.I'm sick of doing this..I'm finding I'm losing a lot of money calling out of curiosity lol but I Can't help it at times..besides which..I wasn't sure. Kind of wish I did though in this hand now.
 
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bet 44 cents again on river. There's no chance in hell he folds Ax on the river if you bet small.
 
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This is 100% a bet/fold situation.
 
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Give us these stats rather than a vague description. I recall the first hand of yours I answered you came out with that he was a 50/35 after we'd given replies based on an unknown :p

This hand is extremly villain dependant.

*Can we get three streets of value from 77-JJ
*How many flush draws will he have in a 3bet pot
*Qx hands may out number 77-JJ by the time we get to the river.
*Based on your previous hand history AA may be in his range.

77-JJ = 24 combos <Negation needed>
AQ/KQ/66 (QJ/QT/Q9/AA/QQ) = 13-44 combos.

Without further information I like either tiny betting both the turn and river or check/folding the turn.
If villain is a fish we can expect more Qx hands than 77-JJ. If villain isn't a fish we have a greater negation applied to 77-JJ and less flush draws.

I probably check/fold turn I don't think there's enough value to be had and I expect we can identify 77-JJ immediately once he checks behind, we can then extract value on the river. The tiny bets protect us from getting bluffed by flush draws but if there are lots of flush draws we can expect more Qx hands and hence be getting a negative return on our blocker bets.

Check/fold turn.
 
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