$2 NLHE 6-max: JTs flopped the nuts, facing river lead

villian is unknown, not going to post stats, smaple size too small to be relevant.

Full Tilt, $0.01/$0.02 No Limit Hold'em Cash, Rush, 6 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

CO: $7.30 (365 bb)
BTN: $2.02 (101 bb)
SB: $1.78 (89 bb)
Hero (BB): $2.03 (101.5 bb)
UTG: $1.88 (94 bb)
MP: $2.93 (146.5 bb)

Preflop: Hero is BB with T♣ J♣
UTG calls $0.02, 3 folds, SB completes, Hero checks

Flop: ($0.06) K♦ 9♦ Q♠ (3 players)
SB checks, Hero checks, UTG bets $0.02, SB calls $0.02, Hero raises to $0.12, UTG folds, SB calls $0.10

Turn: ($0.32) 8♦ (2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $0.22, SB calls $0.22

River: ($0.76) 2♣ (2 players)
SB bets $0.76, Hero...


any opinions on how i played this?

Why are you betting the turn and folding on the river when a brick hits?....are you only putting him on diamonds here?....I think you beat far more hands than your behind with....I would reraise the river, and hope he spews....

Also try using thehandconverter.com to do your hands, hard to read man.

check call, check call, bet is usually a pretty strong hand . I'd meh call the river as played and expect to lose ~ half the time. i think he does this enough with sets and two pairs and some bluffed missed flush draws to balance out his made flushs.

Reraising the river is pure spew though as nothing you beat is going to call and nothing that has you beaten is going to fold. Take the showdown and see how he played it so you have reads for the future.

The hand history output looks like its in 2+2 format. In the hand viewer you can select cardschat and phpBB formats in the "copy to clipboard" drop down option menu at the bottom of HEM2's hand viewer. I assume that Cardschat format should work the best , but phpBB format may get around the formatting problems when hands are previewed or edited.(edit: from the test below phpBB and cardschat format both appear to work when previewed )


phpBB format test
poker stars, $0.08/$0.16 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 5 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

MP: $21.68 (135.5 bb)
CO: $24.07 (150.4 bb)
BTN: $7.25 (45.3 bb)
SB: $13.19 (82.4 bb)
Hero (BB): $18.31 (114.4 bb)

Preflop: Hero is BB with K A
2 folds, BTN calls $0.16, SB raises to $0.48, Hero raises to $1.60, BTN folds, SB calls $1.12

Flop: ($3.36) T 2 3 (2 players)
SB bets $1.60, Hero calls $1.60

Turn: ($6.56) 2 (2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $3.04, SB folds

Results: $6.56 pot ($0.30 rake)
Final Board: T 2 3 2
SB mucked and lost (-$3.20 net)
Hero mucked K A and won $6.26 ($3.06 net)

cardchat format test
Poker Stars, $0.08/$0.16 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 5 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

MP: $21.68 (135.5 bb)
CO: $24.07 (150.4 bb)
BTN: $7.25 (45.3 bb)
SB: $13.19 (82.4 bb)
Hero (BB): $18.31 (114.4 bb)

Preflop: Hero is BB with K A
2 folds, BTN calls $0.16, SB raises to $0.48, Hero raises to $1.60, BTN folds, SB calls $1.12

Flop: ($3.36) T 2 3 (2 players)
SB bets $1.60, Hero calls $1.60

Turn: ($6.56) 2 (2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $3.04, SB folds

Results: $6.56 pot ($0.30 rake)
Final Board: T 2 3 2
SB mucked and lost (-$3.20 net)
Hero mucked K A and won $6.26 ($3.06 net)



both versions have been previewed.

Keith_MM said:

check call, check call,

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Isn't checking the turn a bit nitty? I felt like there's still plenty of hands in his range we can extract value from, also protection?

AlfieAA said:

Why are you betting the turn and folding on the river when a brick hits?....are you only putting him on diamonds here?....I think you beat far more hands than your behind with....I would reraise the river, and hope he spews....

Also try using thehandconverter.com to do your hands, hard to read man.

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I didn't call the river because from my experience at 2nl when villian leads out and boombs the river full pot its usally the nuts, no?

runnerx289 said:

Isn't checking the turn a bit nitty? I felt like there's still plenty of hands in his range we can extract value from, also protection?

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that was villains line not what you should do .

This is definetaly how fishes play a flush in micros - check them when they make it and donk the river, afraid of you checking back.

Just call, if you raise then you'll only get called most likely by a hand that beats you. But I wouldn't throw this hand away. It's just too good

byrnsiey330 said:

Just call, if you raise then you'll only get called most likely by a hand that beats you. But I wouldn't throw this hand away. It's just too good

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A pot-sized donk never indicates weakness.

I agree that raising is never an option, having put so much money into the pot, I doubt if he's folding any flush, but he might not call a set or 2pair on such a board, so when you're raising you're accomplishing nothing.

As for a call I will be more often folding, but if I have at least some history with the guy and I might sense something weak, I will make space for calling.

well with no reads or stats, we're in a tough spot this is one where 50% you'll be right and 50% you won't be so i don't mind a call or a laydown in this spot