$2 NLHE 6-max: JJ turn shove ok vs this player or no?

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I really had no clue as to what to do to this player, he never really raises without the "NUTS" and only calls with some odd/weird hands which make no sense but W/E...So against the UTG raiser I know that he's raising alot pre so I figured JJ=3 bet in this spot now if (had they 4 bet I don't know what to do then, since I never seen them do that), as expected "Mr I never fold calls", and O.R folds...

Now the flop, is kinda meh (It's a good flop as there are no over cards), but at the same time against this player this flop is well meh..So I bet, now my questions are as follows

Is my Cbet way to big on this flop? If so they're a-couple of reasons I did this (but let me know if their the wrong reasons)..

I raised to actually

A) see how they react to this CBet size, and by this, I meant if they had a really strong hand, I'd expect some sort of reaction from them with this bet size, as this bet size would telegraph an Over Pair no?

B) I raised this big because I wanted to build a pot vs this "Mong" in case that they only had 1 pair that they wouldn't fold

C) I know they don't fold nada so makes it easier to GII vs them on the turn


Now the turn card is the problem card for me as this completes all straights that they could've possibly had 89/"58" (always there on the flop) but against them I'd expect some sort of min RR on the flop with 58+2 pair hands+sets (unless they changed there playing styles towards me)

Now what do I do on the turn? As this really does complete all possible odd hands that this player could have potentially

And by odd I mean every possible 2 pair combos that they could have? Now since I'm OOP, and still no over cards, I feel the need to bet but if I do bet then how much to bet? Or better yet how little to bet? If I bet little and they shove then what? If I check and they don't bet and river is an over card then what? If I check and they shove then what?


Also one other question (I just purged everything on HM1), so I don't know why I can't copy with stats and convert HH, but I can just copy HH and convert so what can I do to correct this issue I'm having)



poker stars $0.01/$0.02 No Limit Hold'em - 6 players - View hand 1942798
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UTG: $1.82
Hero (MP): $1.75
CO: $1.24
BTN: $4.48
SB: $2.00
BB: $2.00




Pre Flop: ($0.03) Hero is MP with J :spade: J :diamond:
UTG raises to $0.06, Hero raises to $0.20, 1 fold, BTN calls $0.20, 3 folds




Flop: ($0.49) 6 :spade: 4 :heart: 7 :club: (2 players)
Hero bets $0.30, BTN calls $0.30




Turn: ($1.09) T :heart: (2 players)
Hero
 

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I really had no clue as to what to do to this player, he never really raises without the "NUTS" and only calls with some odd/weird hands which make no sense but W/E...So against the UTG raiser I know that he's raising alot pre so I figured JJ=3 bet in this spot now if (had they 4 bet I don't know what to do then, since I never seen them do that), as expected "Mr I never fold calls", and O.R folds...

Now the flop, is kinda meh (It's a good flop as there are no over cards), but at the same time against this player this flop is well meh..So I bet, now my questions are as follows

Is my Cbet way to big on this flop? If so they're a-couple of reasons I did this (but let me know if their the wrong reasons)..

I raised to actually

A) see how they react to this CBet size, and by this, I meant if they had a really strong hand, I'd expect some sort of reaction from them with this bet size, as this bet size would telegraph an Over Pair no?

B) I raised this big because I wanted to build a pot vs this "Mong" in case that they only had 1 pair that they wouldn't fold

C) I know they don't fold nada so makes it easier to GII vs them on the turn


Now the turn card is the problem card for me as this completes all straights that they could've possibly had 89/"58" (always there on the flop) but against them I'd expect some sort of min RR on the flop with 58+2 pair hands+sets (unless they changed there playing styles towards me)

Now what do I do on the turn? As this really does complete all possible odd hands that this player could have potentially

And by odd I mean every possible 2 pair combos that they could have? Now since I'm OOP, and still no over cards, I feel the need to bet but if I do bet then how much to bet? Or better yet how little to bet? If I bet little and they shove then what? If I check and they don't bet and river is an over card then what? If I check and they shove then what?


Also one other question (I just purged everything on HM1), so I don't know why I can't copy with stats and convert HH, but I can just copy HH and convert so what can I do to correct this issue I'm having)



Poker Stars $0.01/$0.02 No Limit Hold'em - 6 players - View hand 1942798
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UTG: $1.82
Hero (MP): $1.75
CO: $1.24
BTN: $4.48
SB: $2.00
BB: $2.00




Pre Flop: ($0.03) Hero is MP with J J
UTG raises to $0.06, Hero raises to $0.20, 1 fold, BTN calls $0.20, 3 folds




Flop: ($0.49) 6 4 7 (2 players)
Hero bets $0.30, BTN calls $0.30




Turn: ($1.09) T (2 players)
Hero



nah just jam turn. theres still a ton of dumb combos he can have after he calls flop and still call turn with- cos ye hes obv a moron;
55, 5x, 8x, 88-99, random 2 over hands he OOP floated you with ie JT-AT

vs a good player though this turn is a check behind because you beat next to nothing anymore though for sure

edit: also, youve either posted the HH for the wrong hand or circled the wrong guy in the screenshot, since this bro is UTG not button
 
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As I stated HM is kinda off ATM and it's the right hand but the re-player isn't setup at the correct positions but thx for the input..
 
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