$2 NLHE 6-max: I played it reallllly bad...what's the best line I should of taken on the flop/turn?

$2 NLHE 6-max: I played it reallllly bad...what's the best line I should of taken on the flop/turn?

Ok, before anyone says it. I know I played this really badly I don't know even why as I couldn't of butchered the hand more than I did if I tried.

I just want to know ones play from the flop onward because I thought the hand was quite interesting and when I keep running it over, I think the only best play is to fold/shove the turn? or am I wrong?. I was struggling mainly because he was short stacked (Yes I know maybe fold pre but I didn't) I was actually distracted by stuff going on and I didn't actually realise until I raised the flop his stack size...so yeah..not a good start.,



1: My raise on the flop whilst he's 50blinds deep, is usually ok (if he folds) or not?
2:I wonder if he made a heart draw call on the flop? His range of hands has to be like Q,10 or maybe even 8,9 ?
3:When I hit a bad 2 pair as it completes lots of drawing hands, I'm guessing I should of just folded here as this is a reallllly bad card.
4: I'm unsure as to why I "called" the turn with the intention of folding the river, I know it's a spew.

Are we ever good to just shove his turn bet and expect to be behind a vast majority of the time?


I played this hand so badly...I just want some advice on how you would of approached the whole hand AS played.
pokerstars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.02 BB (5 handed) - PokerStars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

UTG ($3.53)
Hero (MP) ($1.92)
Button ($2.76)
SB ($1.62)
BB ($0.95)

Preflop: Hero is MP with J , 10
1 fold, Hero bets $0.06, 2 folds, BB calls $0.04

Flop: ($0.13) 7 , 10 , 6 (2 players)
BB bets $0.06, Hero raises to $0.17, BB calls $0.11

Turn: ($0.47) J (2 players)
BB bets $0.20, Hero calls $0.20

River: ($0.87) 8 (2 players)
BB bets $0.52 (All-In), Hero folds

Total pot: $0.87 | Rake: $0.03

Results:
BB didn't show

First point as not played i would fold preflop. JTo is not a good hand here and will be a long term loser.

To your questions.

1. Before you raise the flop you have to know if you are committing vs this guy. If the answer is yes then you can raise and call a shove or bet big on the turn. If no then you have to fold to a reraise on the flop. But raising in general is pretty thin. Chances are we have the best hand and will if we get it all in but its not an awesome spot. A lot of draws will call and possibly shove to your raise assuming he is a bad player because of his half stack.

2. if he had 89 i imagine he would reraise. Most players would say to themselves ' me have straight, me raise'. His range is hearts, 8x, 9x, Tx, and probably a bunch of other random stuff that connects.

3. hearts get there but thats only a portion of his range. Now you beat all other Tx and 98 is unlikely still because i really think he would get it in on the flop. He still has 8x, 9x, Tx, 7x, and might have picked up a heart draw too.

4. rivers an awful card. If anything i would shove or fold the turn. I would probably shove because i think we are ahead of his overal range enough and will be called by worse enough and have a small chance of a redraw.

First, I think the open is fine but that's just me and a ton of people here will prob be into folding pre.

Second, turn on auto rebuy

Lastly, not saying you're wrong, but why did you raise the flop?

I need a better kicker before raising the flop. 78/T9/xhxh will call but 78o/T9o won't be flatted pre by many players and QT/KT/AT/JJ/89/67 out number them and have us crushed whilst flush draws have between 33%-45% equity here.

Open is fine. I ship turn. The flushes are ahead now but QT/KT/AT/67 fell behind. There's a good chance this bet is to milk us but it could also just be a stupid bet from someone not fully aware of their stack size Top two is a little too good to fold at this point. I ship because there are worse value hands and maybe some draws that can call if villains thick but mostly because the board ccan go wrong in so many ways and the really isn't much left behind so we don't have to fear were turning our hand into a bluff with a strong raise here.

dooydoo said:

First point as not played i would fold preflop. JTo is not a good hand here and will be a long term loser.

To your questions.

1. Before you raise the flop you have to know if you are committing vs this guy. If the answer is yes then you can raise and call a shove or bet big on the turn. If no then you have to fold to a reraise on the flop. But raising in general is pretty thin. Chances are we have the best hand and will if we get it all in but its not an awesome spot. A lot of draws will call and possibly shove to your raise assuming he is a bad player because of his half stack.

2. if he had 89 i imagine he would reraise. Most players would say to themselves ' me have straight, me raise'. His range is hearts, 8x, 9x, Tx, and probably a bunch of other random stuff that connects.

3. hearts get there but thats only a portion of his range. Now you beat all other Tx and 98 is unlikely still because i really think he would get it in on the flop. He still has 8x, 9x, Tx, 7x, and might have picked up a heart draw too.

4. rivers an awful card. If anything i would shove or fold the turn. I would probably shove because i think we are ahead of his overal range enough and will be called by worse enough and have a small chance of a redraw.

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Maybe little loose with J,10os in MP vs a short stack I agree.

1: I was slightly distracted, I just opened like I normally would and then raised his flop bet. IT was only then I realised how short he was (not good i know) and in answer to your answer, no I guess I wasn't committed with J,10 if I knew his stack size I Would of just folded. I honestly expected a fold from him when I raised and assumed he called with a draw. Had he shoved though after my raise..I think I'd just call because of how much he has left and chances are he has lots of drawy hands.

2: I thought 8,9 would just "call" maybe shove the turn. He buy-sin in for 50blinds so might be a more random newbie who flops the nuts and slow plays it imo.

3: If I had actually thought a bit before I played the turn. I'd of either just shoved myself or folded because the Jh is actually really really bad so that was an "out" I could/should of discounted.

4: Not sure why I flatted, that's why I'm reviewing now as I know I should be shove/folding and calling is possibly the worse line to take.

Thanks for feedback!

bgomez89 said:

First, I think the open is fine but that's just me and a ton of people here will prob be into folding pre.

Second, turn on auto rebuy

Lastly, not saying you're wrong, but why did you raise the flop?

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I like to vary my opening range vs different people and don't like becoming the predictable range people open with. Sometimes I fold here and sometimes open. Obviously again, I think I would fold now if I actually took the time to look at stack sizes. I thought auto rebuy was on..thanks for pointing it out - it wasn't lol..

I raised the flop because I honestly believe to be ahead and pretty much all turn cards suck for me a vast majority of times. I raised bigger because I either expect him to fold or shove (in which case I'm ok calling I think)as I thought the raise was quite biggish, I then didn't expect a "call" just either fold/shove.

Deco said:

I need a better kicker before raising the flop. 78/T9/xhxh will call but 78o/T9o won't be flatted pre by many players and QT/KT/AT/JJ/89/67 out number them and have us crushed whilst flush draws have between 33%-45% equity here.

Open is fine. I ship turn. The flushes are ahead now but QT/KT/AT/67 fell behind. There's a good chance this bet is to milk us but it could also just be a stupid bet from someone not fully aware of their stack size Top two is a little too good to fold at this point. I ship because there are worse value hands and maybe some draws that can call if villains thick but mostly because the board ccan go wrong in so many ways and the really isn't much left behind so we don't have to fear were turning our hand into a bluff with a strong raise here.

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I like your reasoning..I wish I did just ship the turn in the end, but meh...I thought someone can't be that bad to flat call a draw this shallow with what was a decent sized raise. Then when the turn/river comes and he leads I scratch my head as it makes no sense unless he's slow playing something..

Next tiem I just fold pre Or shove turn if I get in this spot.

Thanks!

1. You don't need to vary your opening range at the micros to be "unpredictable". You should only vary it depending on who's next to you and stack sizes.

2. Cool so you raised the flop for value. The biggest problem I see here is that your raise is too small. If I decided to raise the flop, I'd make it .25-.30 so I can just ship the turn.