$2 NLHE 6-max: Did I play this right?

Villian Stats (VPIP/PFR/AF): 24/18/28

I kind of just want to know if I played my hand right here. Should I have re-raised pre? What could I have done differently or better?

I really dislike AK. I swear recently it's lost me more money than it's won me so when I see it, I guess I get a little stumped as to how to play it.

IPoker Network $2.00 No Limit Hold'em - 6 players - View hand 1995680
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Player1 (UTG): $1.51 - VPIP: 29, PFR: 13, 3B: 0, AF: 1.0, hands: 24
Player3 (MP): $2.52 - VPIP: 16, PFR: 11, 3B: 2, AF: 2.9, Hands: 202
Player5 (CO): $2.33 - VPIP: 52, PFR: 10, 3B: 2, AF: 1.1, Hands: 366
Hero (BTN): $5.00 - VPIP: 19, PFR: 13, 3B: 3, AF: 2.7, Hands: 23925
Player8 (SB): $5.01 - VPIP: 20, PFR: 17, 3B: 5, AF: 7.5, Hands: 1524
Player10 (BB): $1.32 - VPIP: 29, PFR: 13, 3B: 0, AF: 1.0, Hands: 24

Pre Flop: ($0.03) Hero is BTN with K A
3 folds, Hero raises to $0.08, 1 fold, Player10 raises to $0.18, Hero calls $0.10

Flop: ($0.37) J 6 4 (2 players)
Player10 bets $0.08, Hero calls $0.08

Turn: ($0.53) 2 (2 players)
Player10 checks, Hero bets $0.34, Player10 folds

4bet it pre. Its a very very rare day I don't 4bet AK when 3bet BTN vs Blinds.

As played I'd rather check the turn back. Most of the hands we fold by betting we beat anyway. Don't hate the bet like, stops people catching up on us or bluffing the river.

Deco said:

4bet it pre. Its a very very rare day I don't 4bet AK when 3bet BTN vs Blinds.

As played I'd rather check the turn back. Most of the hands we fold by betting we beat anyway. Don't hate the bet like, stops people catching up on us or bluffing the river.

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Can we not make more by flatting against AJ/Q type hands?

I would not mind a 4-bet pre. 24 hands is not large enough to trust the accuracy of his 0 3-bet stat - he could still be doing this with a lot of hands still not just premiums.

As played, do we not want to raise his flop c-bet? It looks super weak.

pocketehs said:

I would not mind a 4-bet pre. 24 hands is not large enough to trust the accuracy of his 0 3-bet stat - he could still be doing this with a lot of hands still not just premiums.

As played, do we not want to raise his flop c-bet? It looks super weak.

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Yeah didnt see it but this ^

Jonny03UK said:

Villian Stats (VPIP/PFR/AF): 24/18/28

I kind of just want to know if I played my hand right here. Should I have re-raised pre? What could I have done differently or better?

I really dislike AK. I swear recently it's lost me more money than it's won me so when I see it, I guess I get a little stumped as to how to play it.

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Jonny, how are you playing AK? Are you just trying to GII pre-flop with 3/4/5-bets? I was doing this as well for a bit and then began to look at reasons why I don't really want to 4-bet GII with AK at 2nl. Versus a regular at 2nl or someone who is relatively competent, I think they are only going to GII with a range that like QQ+/AK (at least for 100bbs). Some players will GII with like TT+/AQs but thats why we have a HUD. If you look at the number from 'Stove, we're pretty much going to be a 40 v 60 flip against this range.

Jchoop told me this on my challenge thread when I was having issues playing AK as well...

"GII pre w AK no good at 2nl. Wait til you're at at least 10nl IMO.

You're right that vs their range you're usually a dog in a 60/40 flip, but the thing is villain doesn't always call and you TID, or if you 4b and they jam you're getting the right odds to call as only a 40% fav.

Probs best to wait til people are 4bing you light a little higher up, but then, get used to AK going in pre"

Hope this helps!

youregoodmate said:

Can we not make more by flatting against AJ/Q type hands?

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Are 2NL regs not likely to flat the 4bet with worse hands such as AQ at the very least?

I understand light 5betting will be rare at 2NL but light flatting must go on surely? We're also going to face c-bets from regs alot of the 65% of the time our hand whiffs whether they hold a dominated hand or not.

pocketehs said:

As played, do we not want to raise his flop c-bet? It looks super weak.

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I don't for the same reason I don't bet the turn. It doesn't fold out much we beat, we beat any unpaired hand, and most pairs will likely continue,

pocketehs said:

Jonny, how are you playing AK? Are you just trying to GII pre-flop with 3/4/5-bets? I was doing this as well for a bit and then began to look at reasons why I don't really want to 4-bet GII with AK at 2nl. Versus a regular at 2nl or someone who is relatively competent, I think they are only going to GII with a range that like QQ+/AK (at least for 100bbs). Some players will GII with like TT+/AQs but thats why we have a HUD. If you look at the number from 'Stove, we're pretty much going to be a 40 v 60 flip against this range.

Jchoop told me this on my challenge thread when I was having issues playing AK as well...

"GII pre w AK no good at 2nl. Wait til you're at at least 10nl IMO.

You're right that vs their range you're usually a dog in a 60/40 flip, but the thing is villain doesn't always call and you TID, or if you 4b and they jam you're getting the right odds to call as only a 40% fav.

Probs best to wait til people are 4bing you light a little higher up, but then, get used to AK going in pre"

Hope this helps!

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JChoop would know 2NL dynamics better than I would. If he says this is the way to go it probably is. I'd double check he meant in resteal scenarios though as opposed to UTG vs HJ sort of scenarios.
I personally expect the regs to suck enough for us to get enough value from their flats to make up for our 40% equity vs the likely {AK, QQ+} range. The fold equity is profit in itself as well.

its pretty rare for 'competent 2NL regs' to even have a BvB resteal range- from my experience they tend to defend by flatting. but ye if they have any kind of light 3b range from the blinds vs steals id 4b every day

but then it all depends. degens gunna degen. you shoudl be able to work out from watching about 10hands whether shipping AK pre will be profitable or not. just try to get out of the mentality of 'ill just call bc then its only X cents as opposed to $2 if i run into AA or im flipping and brick'. even though when you shove and youre behind you lose way more, its still more profitable to play like this if appropriate with villains tendencies

Dont get me wrong Deco, at the higher limits 4 bet everyday. I just think 2nl they will fold weaker aces, whereas theyll happily stack off top pair. Not saying we shouldnt 4 bet, just wondering whether it can be more profitable to flat.

Definitely appreciate you sharing that advice pocketehs - it makes sense. Actually had an occurrence of it today as well - I 3bet AKo and someone 4bet jammed, also writing in the chat that he had JJ. I chose to believe him on it and knew I'd be about around 40% or so. I ran out of time and folded because of it. Someone else called the villain's AI and it ended up being JJ vs 99.

There was no A or K out there so guess it ended up being a good fold technically. Does seem as though players like to jam pocket pairs at these stakes.

As for how I'm playing it now, I'm obviously raising it pre. If any 3bets come along I'll usually just call. I guess I'm in that mentality of "I'll just call because it's X cents" as you mentioned JC.

Deco said:

JChoop

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Did you change your username somehow or have I somehow just misread JCGrind as JChoop all this time?

Jonny03UK said:

Definitely appreciate you sharing that advice pocketehs - it makes sense. Actually had an occurrence of it today as well - I 3bet AKo and someone 4bet jammed, also writing in the chat that he had JJ. I chose to believe him on it and knew I'd be about around 40% or so. I ran out of time and folded because of it. Someone else called the villain's AI and it ended up being JJ vs 99.

There was no A or K out there so guess it ended up being a good fold technically. Does seem as though players like to jam pocket pairs at these stakes.

As for how I'm playing it now, I'm obviously raising it pre. If any 3bets come along I'll usually just call. I guess I'm in that mentality of "I'll just call because it's X cents" as you mentioned JC.

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yeah you should try and get out of this though. you lose more this way than you would if you stacked off once you get to even marginally higher stakes

Deco said:

Did you change your username somehow or have I somehow just misread JCGrind as JChoop all this time?

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lol. i got it changed since it was the same as my stars SN, and i didnt want that since i was rolled for and playing 50/100nl deep games (which have a super small reg player base) and didnt like the idea of my cc posts being connected to that account if that makes sense.

bitches still calling me jchoop on here though :bawling: lol. i dont blame them, its obv stuck. hell even my girlfriend calls me choop IRL sometimes hahaha

After you get 3bet preflop then just shove. He is not a fullstack, that says to me that he is a fish, so easy ALL IN.