$2 NLHE 6-max: How badly did I play this hand? from the Blind vs BTN battle

naruto_miu

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My questions I have are as follows

Should I folded on the flop bet? Even though that flop bet really made no sense it could've been an over pair (but you'd think with an Over pair, they'd be inclined to raise pre)..

Now the turn, (Really)? I'm hard headed and maybe that's my issue I have because I'll stick to a pair and will not fold (maybe this is the issue I'm having)? Should I have once again on the turn check/bet? If I bet then I'm stuck into calling this players A.I correct?

Now the river, I chose to once again check, and again they over bet shoved A.I, really? Really?

My last question is what could this player have that I can beat? And if I can beat it would they really spazz out like they are, with something I can beat?



poker stars $2.00 No Limit Hold'em - 6 players - View hand 1940083
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MP: $6.65 - VPIP: 20, PFR: 16, 3B: 6, AF: 4.0, hands: 90
CO: $2.00 - VPIP: 27, PFR: 9, 3B: 0, AF: NaN, Hands: 11
BTN: $1.47 - VPIP: 58, PFR: 8, 3B: 0, AF: 2.3, Hands: 12
Hero (SB): $6.70 -
BB: $2.70 - VPIP: 56, PFR: 17, 3B: 12, AF: 4.7, Hands: 41
UTG: $1.14 - VPIP: 41, PFR: 3, 3B: 8, AF: 1.6, Hands: 90

Pre Flop: ($0.03) Hero is SB with 9 :spade: A :club:
3 folds, BTN calls $0.02, Hero calls $0.01, BB checks

Flop: ($0.06) J :heart: 9 :diamond: 2 :club: (3 players)
Hero checks, BB checks, BTN bets $0.12, Hero calls $0.12, BB folds

Turn: ($0.30) J :spade: (2 players)
Hero checks, BTN bets $0.30, Hero calls $0.30

River: ($0.90) A :diamond: (2 players)
Hero checks, BTN bets $1.03, Hero calls $1.03
 
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Well I have to start with a bit of spiel, sorry... I really hate how this hand panned out. There's really no reason you should be completing in the SB with a hand like A9o. If you don't want to bring it in for a raise and try to take the dead money (or at least the initiative) then just fold it. There's nothing wrong with folding mediocre cards in a mediocre spot in the worst position at the table.

The best argument for raising here is of course that the BB seems to be a drooler and A9o will be way ahead of his range, plus he will be easy to play against post flop even though you are OOP.

The BTN is also playing a pretty terrible range (yes 12 hands is a small sample but 58/6 still means something after 12 hands), so I can be totally fine raising or folding if you don't feel like you can play the hand well OOP. Now onto the hand.

As I mentioned I hate the complete pre, but once you do and the BB checks, and you see that flop, it's a bit odd. We have a hand that normally wouldn't be strong enough to bet, but I'd consider it here against two very loose passive players. When we get raised it's a snap-fold (because they're passive) and we expect them to call with worse a lot.

As played, obviously we check, the BB checks and the BTN bets 2x the pot. The "weird sizing" is less weird since it's still only a 6bb bet, but if he had nothing I would expect him to check back or bet tiny. Looks like a Jx hand more often than 9x hand just purely because of combos (we've got a 9) but also because of the sizing. I also don't think 22 should be discounted since he would limp that pre.

Note that his range is still enormous here because no one raised pre. A tricky spot but I probably call one street and re-evaluate on the turn b/c we have a strong enough hand against his range that I want to see what happens on the turn and we have redraws as well.

On the turn the J comes down, which combo-wise makes it less likely that he has a J, but there are two Js and two 9s missing, so when we check and he pots it I dismiss 9x from his range. A relatively loose passive unknown will just not be getting so aggressive with 9x here. I fold the turn.

As played you call and we go to the river. We catch our A, which might seem awesome, but imo doesn't really change a ton about the hand. In fact the only thing it changes is to make me more sure we aren't good. There's just no way this player has 9x (the only hand type from his earlier range that we beat), and he's basically saying that the ace doesn't scare him, so it's pretty unlikely he has TT, QQ, or KK even if he limps those pre.

Looks like Jx all day. He can easily limp J7o+ and potentially any suited Jx, but prime suspects would be JT+. Sorry for the short essay but I wanted to give a complete answer. :)
 
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Well I have to start with a bit of spiel, sorry... I really hate how this hand panned out. There's really no reason you should be completing in the SB with a hand like A9o. If you don't want to bring it in for a raise and try to take the dead money (or at least the initiative) then just fold it. There's nothing wrong with folding mediocre cards in a mediocre spot in the worst position at the table.

The best argument for raising here is of course that the BB seems to be a drooler and A9o will be way ahead of his range, plus he will be easy to play against post flop even though you are OOP.

The BTN is also playing a pretty terrible range (yes 12 hands is a small sample but 58/6 still means something after 12 hands), so I can be totally fine raising or folding if you don't feel like you can play the hand well OOP. Now onto the hand.

As I mentioned I hate the complete pre, but once you do and the BB checks, and you see that flop, it's a bit odd. We have a hand that normally wouldn't be strong enough to bet, but I'd consider it here against two very loose passive players. When we get raised it's a snap-fold (because they're passive) and we expect them to call with worse a lot.

As played, obviously we check, the BB checks and the BTN bets 2x the pot. The "weird sizing" is less weird since it's still only a 6bb bet, but if he had nothing I would expect him to check back or bet tiny. Looks like a Jx hand more often than 9x hand just purely because of combos (we've got a 9) but also because of the sizing. I also don't think 22 should be discounted since he would limp that pre.

Note that his range is still enormous here because no one raised pre. A tricky spot but I probably call one street and re-evaluate on the turn b/c we have a strong enough hand against his range that I want to see what happens on the turn and we have redraws as well.

On the turn the J comes down, which combo-wise makes it less likely that he has a J, but there are two Js and two 9s missing, so when we check and he pots it I dismiss 9x from his range. A relatively loose passive unknown will just not be getting so aggressive with 9x here. I fold the turn.

As played you call and we go to the river. We catch our A, which might seem awesome, but imo doesn't really change a ton about the hand. In fact the only thing it changes is to make me more sure we aren't good. There's just no way this player has 9x (the only hand type from his earlier range that we beat), and he's basically saying that the ace doesn't scare him, so it's pretty unlikely he has TT, QQ, or KK even if he limps those pre.

Looks like Jx all day. He can easily limp J7o+ and potentially any suited Jx, but prime suspects would be JT+. Sorry for the short essay but I wanted to give a complete answer. :)


I loved reading all of it and thx for the break down, I'll post the hand/PM it to you after wards
 
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Haha uh oh - in before it's like 95o and I fall flat on my face :D
 
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