$2 NLHE 6-max: $HE 6-max: Did I play this really awful...I'm pretty certain I made the right fold

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$2 NLHE 6-max: $HE 6-max: Did I play this really awful...I'm pretty certain I made the right fold

I want to know how did I play this hand over all...If your wondering, why the smallish turn bet (I didn't feel comfortable with the turn card vs this player tbh)......River is the worst possible card, so I really hated that card...



poker stars $2.00 No Limit Hold'em - 6 players - View hand 1990636
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UTG: $2.31 - VPIP: 12, PFR: 8, 3B: 7, AF: 4.5, hands: 123
MP: $5.75 - VPIP: 64, PFR: 11, 3B: 6, AF: 1.8, Hands: 66
CO: $1.31 - VPIP: 28, PFR: 14, 3B: 0, AF: 2.0, Hands: 43
BTN: $1.52 - VPIP: 43, PFR: 17, 3B: 14, AF: 1.9, Hands: 76
Hero (SB): $4.92 - VPIP: 24, PFR: 14, 3B: 4, AF: 1.5, Hands: 11607
BB: $4.56 - VPIP: 20, PFR: 13, 3B: 3, AF: 2.2, Hands: 191

Pre Flop: ($0.03) Hero is SB with J :heart: J :diamond:
1 fold, MP calls $0.02, 1 fold, BTN raises to $0.06, Hero raises to $0.26, 1 fold, MP calls $0.24, 1 fold

Flop: ($0.60) 7 :heart: 9 :spade: J :club: (2 players)
Hero bets $0.22, MP calls $0.22

Turn: ($1.04) 8 :diamond: (2 players)
Hero bets $0.36, MP calls $0.36

River: ($1.76) T :heart: (2 players)
Hero checks, MP bets $1.80, Hero folds

Final Pot: $1.76
MP wins $1.70
(Rake: $0.06)
 
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Whats with your bet sizing? Make it 45c otf. 80% ott.

As played I probably fold, we dont beat anything except air.
 
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Whats with your bet sizing? Make it 45c otf. 80% ott.

As played I probably fold, we dont beat anything except air.

Def agree. We want to charge villain to chase his straight and get max value of our set when he misses. Just cause the board is wet should not mean we begin to play our monster passively.

I think we have to fold river though. good job letting this one go though
 
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Ok maybe I'm missing something here, If I know villain calls atc pre, and I know they float atc on the flop, and the flop isn't the greatest flop (but not the worst either, because we do have a set), so why would I bet bigger on flop (knowing they'll call)? This just doesn't make sense (I know alot of ppl will say, you'll get paid more when you boat up+it will make it easier to shove come river time, because by betting bigger we commit them by the river, correct)? The thing about this player was I knew well they were going to spazz out if I get a boat or if I don't get a boat (so can I not make these smaller bets both ways vs villains such as this, also saving myself money tbh.
 
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How is that not a great flop for us? only T8 beats us, come on. Bet bigger please.

Oh and why do we bet bigger? Uh, to get more value with our, you know, good hand to make money...
 
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The flop is fine. And if you know he's always floating you bet bigger for value.
 
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monsters under the bed, this flop is epic. it hits his range so hard and you have his range crushed. pot that shit
 
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How is that not a great flop for us? only T8 beats us, come on. Bet bigger please.

Oh and why do we bet bigger? Uh, to get more value with our, you know, good hand to make money...

The flop is fine. And if you know he's always floating you bet bigger for value.

monsters under the bed, this flop is epic. it hits his range so hard and you have his range crushed. pot that shit

To everyone here I admit flop bet was pathetic:)

What about the turn size bet now, is that also pathetic
 
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To everyone here I admit flop bet was pathetic:)

What about the turn size bet now, is that also pathetic

Yes! Regardless of whether a 10 is in his range, you still have a re-draw which you can stack him if you hit. If he has a 10 he will let you know, so bet bigger.

Its unfortunate the board ran out as it did, but we have to get value for our big hands. If I see that turn bet and I dont think Im ahead, then Im bashing that raise button, you leave yourself wide open by looking weak.
 
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What about the turn size bet now, is that also pathetic
The small turn bet compounds the small flop bet. If he has a T, so be it, but given his actions until then, what's his range, and how much of it includes a T?

It's possible he has one, or maybe TT, but if you have to assume he called your 3bet pre- and then your small flop bet with atc, how realistic are you being about his range?
 
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The small turn bet compounds the small flop bet. If he has a T, so be it, but given his actions until then, what's his range, and how much of it includes a T?

It's possible he has one, or maybe TT, but if you have to assume he called your 3bet pre- and then your small flop bet with atc, how realistic are you being about his range?


I admit that his range is extremely wide (there's no doubt in that fact...So I admit that it would be harder for me to put him on 1 sole card to be fair about it, thinking back about it now)...Yet that river card is a fold no doubt...So yes your all correct (and I admit I played the hand terrible, because in my mind now it's less likely we were behind on flop, I still don't know about that turn though, yet that river I had no choice to let go...The only hand combo that could reasonable even call would be 10/Q personally It's the only hand I can think of now on flop...What do you all think about that?


Anyways, later on in the session, the player in the OP hand and I were HU:D ...And yeah, here's why I stated he had a very wide range (so yeah your all correct, now that I admit he has a very wide range, I should've potted flop, but I still don't think I can pot turn tbh vs this player..




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BTN/SB: $6.00 - VPIP: 64, PFR: 11, 3B: 6, AF: 1.8, Hands: 66
Hero (BB): $4.97 - VPIP: 23, PFR: 14, 3B: 4, AF: 1.6, Hands: 14311

Pre Flop: ($0.03) Hero is BB with A :diamond: A :spade:
BTN/SB raises to $0.28, Hero raises to $0.78, BTN/SB calls $0.50

Flop: ($1.56) 8 :spade: 2 :diamond: 3 :heart: (2 players)
Hero bets $0.78, BTN/SB calls $0.78

Turn: ($3.12) A :club: (2 players)
Hero checks, BTN/SB bets $4.44, Hero calls $3.41 all in

River: ($9.94) 7 :spade: (2 players - 1 is all in)

Final Pot: $9.94
BTN/SB mucks T :club: Q :spade:
Hero shows A :diamond: A :spade:
Hero wins $9.64
(Rake: $-0.73)
 
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Again bet more on the flop, I like the checked turn though.
 
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