$2 NLHE 6-max: Good fold or bad fold?

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PokerStars - $0.02 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4
BTN: $4.96 (VPIP: 13.64, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, hands: 24)
Hero (SB): $4.78
BB: $4.97 (VPIP: 27.69, PFR: 15.38, 3Bet Preflop: 5.26, Hands: 69)
UTG: $1.38 (VPIP: 31.03, PFR: 7.76, 3Bet Preflop: 2.38, Hands: 119)
MP: $3.42 (VPIP: 25.95, PFR: 17.56, 3Bet Preflop: 6.45, Hands: 136)
CO: $6.63 (VPIP: 35.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 21)
Hero posts SB $0.01, BB posts BB $0.02
Pre Flop: (pot: $0.03) Hero has J:spade: J:club:
fold, MP raises to $0.06, fold, BTN calls $0.06, Hero raises to $0.10, fold, MP calls $0.04, BTN calls $0.04
Flop: ($0.32, 3 players) Q:diamond: 7:club: J:diamond:
Hero bets $0.20, MP calls $0.20, BTN calls $0.20
Turn: ($0.92, 3 players) 3:diamond:
Hero bets $0.40, fold, BTN calls $0.40
River: ($1.72, 2 players) 4:club:
Hero bets $0.40, BTN raises to $1.68, fold
BTN wins $2.43
 
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3bet bigger, at least 3x the original raise, that size 3b wont achieve anything.

Bigger on the turn ~60-70c, bigger on the river ~2/3 - 3/4 pot sized bet.

As played I'm not folding there, tempted to shove over actually, he's probably taking a stab cos your betting looks so weak.
 
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3bet bigger, at least 3x the original raise, that size 3b wont achieve anything.

Bigger on the turn ~60-70c, bigger on the river ~2/3 - 3/4 pot sized bet.

As played I'm not folding there, tempted to shove over actually, he's probably taking a stab cos your betting looks so weak.
^^^^^^^/THIS

mOST OF THE TIME ITS A FOLD HERE, BUT YOUVE UNDER-REPPED your hand so much that its an instashove. against anything he might have. you have trips and youve played them like your drawing or smthng. bad fold IMO.

Yopur betting so small had led him to believe your weak.Or at least it might have.

thats the problem when you bet weak. You dont know if villain is betting as a bluff right now. wheres aif u had bet 70% of pot and he raised then you know your behind.
 
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True that's where the hand went wrong.. Just under repped, not sure what I was thinking I normally always 3/4 pot size regardless

Anyways just posted up a few of these losing hands in a winning session just to keep improving thanks for the feedback guys.

Soon as I do a weak bet I've destined to be bullied out or not sure where I stand... I remember someone saying that you get get it all in with a set on the flop.

Just had a feeling the guy had a flush but playing that weak argh... I guess he didn't need it, silly me
 
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Yes,as hand is played its a shove on river. I would be more afraid if he re-raised on the turn. And hitting a straight on river would be so bad luck I woudnt even take it into accout.
Plus its only $1,28 to call to quite big pot.
 
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Don't shove the river... Most Q/X type hands will call down and not raise river anyway even though your bet is weak.

Only hand that villain might call with if we shove that we beat is 77 or JQ and these are a lot less likely than flushes.

Also river raises are always the nuts at these stakes.
 
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Bet every single street bigger. Set or not that boards drawy and that 3bet sizing is just tiny. 4.5x is the norm here.
 
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Don't shove the river... Most Q/X type hands will call down and not raise river anyway even though your bet is weak.

Only hand that villain might call with if we shove that we beat is 77 or JQ and these are a lot less likely than flushes.

Also river raises are always the nuts at these stakes.


^^ Quite true. but notice how bad we have played the hand in this example. On the river we are betting .40 cents into 1.72!!

This is the definition of the weakest move anyone can make. It's begging for a cheap showdown. It's also begging for a reraise.

I would shove this river if i was villain all day long no matter what i am holding .

Cant ever fold this river,esp with the line we have taken.
 
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I don't think i'd ever fold here. 3bet is way too small but regardless, how many flush draws do you think he is playing in a 3bet pot at these stakes (answer: probably only AK of diamonds.) Ship it!
 
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I don't think i'd ever fold here. 3bet is way too small but regardless, how many flush draws do you think he is playing in a 3bet pot at these stakes (answer: probably only AK of diamonds.) Ship it!

Higher stakes that makes perfect sense... but it's wider range at these levels and I still get surprised when ppl flop a straight with 68 or something after a 3bet
 
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^^ Quite true. but notice how bad we have played the hand in this example. On the river we are betting .40 cents into 1.72!!

This is the definition of the weakest move anyone can make. It's begging for a cheap showdown. It's also begging for a reraise.

I would shove this river if i was villain all day long no matter what i am holding .

Cant ever fold this river,esp with the line we have taken.

And how many villains do you think are raising rivers as bluffs at these micro stakes when most of them are bad.

I don't think a fold is bad at all.
 
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I don't think i'd ever fold here. 3bet is way too small but regardless, how many flush draws do you think he is playing in a 3bet pot at these stakes (answer: probably only AK of diamonds.) Ship it!

He has lots of FD's in his range due to HERO making tiny 3 bet. Also he's already called a raise from the BTN, which means it's very likely he can have suited connectors such as 78d.
 
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