$2 NLHE 6-max: Getting value on a flopped set

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Hi, firstly this is 6-max zoom and as my HEM2 trial has finally ran out I've resorted to using fpdb for my tracking so had no HUD stats for villain.

I'm wondering how you guys would've played this hand to have gotten max value out of it. Would you have check-raised the flop? Should I have bet the turn and was my river sizing too large?

Any other comments appreciated, thanks guys!

poker stars $0.01/$0.02 No Limit Hold'em - 6 players

BTN: $2.34
SB: $0.89
BB: $2.44
UTG: $4.31
Hero (MP): $7.36
CO: $4.23

Pre Flop: ($0.03) Hero is MP with Ts Tc
1 fold, Hero raises to $0.06, 1 fold, BTN raises to $0.18, SB calls $0.17, 1 fold, Hero calls $0.12

Flop: ($0.56) 7c 3d Th (3 players)
SB checks, Hero checks, BTN bets $0.38, SB folds, Hero calls $0.38

Turn: ($1.32) Js (2 players)
Hero checks, BTN checks

River: ($1.32) 6c (2 players)
Hero bets $0.96, BTN folds

Final Pot: $1.32
Hero mucks Ts Tc
Hero wins $1.27
 
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There are so many ways to play this hand post flop after we flopped a set.

To extract maximum value one should to have a fair idea of villain's playing style. How aggressive is he, how much does he c-bet, does he bluff or is he passive.

If we know villain's playing style we then have to adjust our moves accordingly so as to extract as much value as we can. If we don't have much info then follow your instincts.:cool:
 
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That is right, you have to play the opponent and not your cards. For me the preflop bet is a little to small, i would 4bet here maybe. Postflop it must be a small cbet, may he still think he is strong or hit an underpair, after the ckeck on turn the river bet is to high that he would call. may bet about .45 or something
 
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Any move is correct.

On the river, ,maybe you can bet smaller for him to call.
 
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That is right, you have to play the opponent and not your cards. For me the preflop bet is a little to small, i would 4bet here maybe. Postflop it must be a small cbet, may he still think he is strong or hit an underpair, after the ckeck on turn the river bet is to high that he would call. may bet about .45 or something
what is the rationale for 4betting this preflop? your 4betting range should be more polarized than that.

i think i like flatting the 3bet and checkraising a wide range with a good amount of bluffs on a lot of boards...
 
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I Don't like 4betting with 10s since the majority of 3betting ranges would have me beat on a flop with Broadway's or would atleast put me into an awkward position. I like flagging the 3bet here as my aim was to hit a set and I would've likely folded to aggression on a high flop.
 
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I don't mind checking to the 3-bettor, but you have to bet that turn. That is getting checked behind so often, it will make your head spin. I might even bet smallish to induce a shove from AQ/AK type hands.
 
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I believe you played it right preflop and after the flop. A raise would make him too suspect but I would have lead out a small amount around .30-.50 on the turn. If he calls then you have a chance to get more on the river and if he folds he was likely to fold on the river anyways.
 
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I don't mind checking to the 3-bettor, but you have to bet that turn. That is getting checked behind so often, it will make your head spin. I might even bet smallish to induce a shove from AQ/AK type hands.
i agree that you lose a ton of value by checking on the turn. but i think that's just reason to check-raise on the flop. donking on the turn after check-calling the flop looks pretty fishy. if for no other reason than your flat-3bet-check-call-flop range would have to be ridiculous. i don't think i would play any hand that way on this flop.
 
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i agree that you lose a ton of value by checking on the turn. but i think that's just reason to check-raise on the flop. donking on the turn after check-calling the flop looks pretty fishy. if for no other reason than your flat-3bet-check-call-flop range would have to be ridiculous. i don't think i would play any hand that way on this flop.

MW I don't think you should be CR a dry flop. C/cing and then betting the turn here is totally fine imo, but I prefer a small bet to try and get AQ/AK to shove. Opponent has QQ+ and it doesn't matter... it's going in no matter what. It's 2nl, no need to over think it.
 
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MW I don't think you should be CR a dry flop. C/cing and then betting the turn here is totally fine imo, but I prefer a small bet to try and get AQ/AK to shove. Opponent has QQ+ and it doesn't matter... it's going in no matter what. It's 2nl, no need to over think it.

I like check raising the flop with a smallish type raise. But you're totally right you have to bet the turn to get max value and to protect your hand!
 
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a smallish lead on the flop can be effective. looks bluffy so your opponent might raise depending on his style. i also agree with the check/call lead turn line as another option. checkraising looks too strong tho multiway.
 
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