$2 NLHE 6-max: full house facing massive overbet shove on the river..

Villain. 73/2 stats over 50 hands. Has been involved in many pots, but haven't seen him do this.

I can't see what he's doing this other than something nutty...surely not a flush here? Even if he was doing it with a flush, what's he expecting a call from? This feels like just weird and far to spewy for a bad player even.

Calling just seems to good but I'm unsure if it's right..I know he can't ever really put me on a FH here but he could easily have K,x here for better FH..thoughts?!



pokerstars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.02 BB (5 handed) - PokerStars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

saw flop

SB ($5.23)
BB ($1.25)
UTG ($4.66)
MP ($1.92)
Hero (Button) ($4.07)

Preflop: Hero is Button with 6 , 6
UTG calls $0.02, 1 fold, Hero bets $0.10, 2 folds, UTG calls $0.08

Flop: ($0.23) K , 6 , K (2 players)
UTG checks, Hero checks

Turn: ($0.23) A (2 players)
UTG checks, Hero bets $0.17, UTG calls $0.17

River: ($0.57) 10 (2 players)
UTG bets $4.39 (All-In), Hero ????

WHY DID YOU CHECK THE FLOP?????

Snap call on the river btw!

WVHillbilly said:

WHY DID YOU CHECK THE FLOP?????

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This so much.

As played I call. Villian is capable of taking same line with flush and trips. (and straight for that matter)

I checked because he'd expect any king to bet there + I didn't mind any draws to catch up and his range consisted of lots of J,x/q,x/10,x all your broadways etc.

He's folding almost nothing on the flop that he'll continue with later.

Don't slowplay against players who can't think.
Don't slowplay against players who can't think.
Don't slowplay against players who can't think.

Only one thing to add to what WV said, i'm even inclined to ...lol open shove, any K is calling alot of the case 6 is calling,and most pp from this villain above a 6 is calling before the board gets to scary on the turn.

You should have been building a pot earlier. Checking behind the flop is just burning money at these limits. If you had of been betting before then it wouldn't be such a large overbet here on the river. As played I think I would still call. I think these kinds of players will do this with Kx, any flush and maybe a straight. Don't make things so hard on yourself and just pot the flop, pot the turn and snapcall the river next time

WVHillbilly said:

WHY DID YOU CHECK THE FLOP?????

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What are you betting flop. I think I'm putting in a .08 - .12 on the flop. And, I'm flatting a re-raise.

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my line postflop would be bet big, bet big, shove.

i expect to be good here more often than not so i think calling his shove is ok on the river. If he shows up with KT, thats ok. Hes going to have flushes and Kx there as well in the long run.

As much as I'm still quite new to cash games,I still don't 100% understand what betting the flop does when I open 5x. For one, it looks to strong imo and I do have a monster. Obviously if he has k,x he's getting it in but why not let a straight card or flushy card like the turn catch up and give him some more outs?

Thanks for advice though. In retrospect I wish I did bet the flop (because I'm faced with the weird shove on the river) and I'm not one ot slop play sets/fullhouses I usually almost 90% of the time bet in to them but in this spot I thought checking was best just because from the hands I'd seen him play so very often, even calling 3bets with 9x/10x/jx/qx/suited/un-suited loads of combos like that so thought any turn card between 9-A was always good and I could always get a 80-100% bet size on the turn and expect a call so often an espically good if there was a flush draw to eiter the spade or club but when he insta shoves the river I was confused and it really felt like k,10 to me as I can't see flushes shoving here.

Call, you will be beat a lot but w/e. You can fold here against some tight players.

You should bet the flop because fish who like to call/call/call tend to not believe people who bet out on scary flops (because they would never do it, lolslowplay) so this is where they sometimes like to bluff.

I'm glad he had pocket 10's so it teaches you to play better. Stop overthinking bet bet bet and easy river call he spazzes out with loads worse.

ramdeebam said:

As much as I'm still quite new to cash games,I still don't 100% understand what betting the flop does when I open 5x. For one, it looks to strong imo and I do have a monster. Obviously if he has k,x he's getting it in but why not let a straight card or flushy card like the turn catch up and give him some more outs?

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firstly, it looks ALOT stronger when you bet 5x preflop, then check the flop, it looks weaker when you cbet, plus at the micro's you want to build pots with big hands, he has a vpip of 72!!! he is going to call with pretty much anything anyway, build that pot, get it all in when you can.

ramdeebam said:

I checked because he'd expect any king to bet there

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He's an utter whale he isn't thinking about your hand at all.

Also your deep! How are you going to stack him if your only getting two bets in. Even if he weren't a fish when your deep you should never slowplay monster hands. That and a KK6 flop is such a standard c-bet, I'd be more scared of a check than a bet. Heck I'd checkraise bluff this flop alot.

As played I call.

He's stupid enough to do this with a flush Kx or a straight. Expect to be beat by better fullhouses fairly often but bare in mind he didn't show any strength until the river when the straight and flush came in.