$2 NLHE 6-max: floped set in a 3way pot...

magicius

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hello guys,first i wish you all merry xmass and happy new year!
i need opinions on this hand please...

poker stars, $0.01/$0.02 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
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BTN: $2 (100 bb)
SB: $2.74 (137 bb)
Hero (BB): $2.42 (121 bb)
UTG: $4.82 (241 bb)
MP: $3.03 (151.5 bb)
CO: $4.97 (248.5 bb)

Preflop: Hero is BB with J
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J
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UTG raises to $0.08, MP folds, CO calls $0.08, 2 folds, Hero calls $0.06

Flop: ($0.25) J
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4
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8
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(3 players)
Hero checks, UTG checks, CO bets $0.12, Hero calls $0.12, UTG calls $0.12

Turn: ($0.61) 6
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(3 players)
Hero checks, UTG checks, CO bets $0.30, Hero calls $0.30, UTG raises to $4.62 and is all-in, CO calls $4.32, Hero ?:itsme:
 
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Same to you and your family.

Just a question first off. I understand the check call on the flop, and will do that from time to time myself, but why the turn? At this point, you should take the lead more often than not. IMO, you're playing it a bit too passive.

But, to get back to your original question, I'm calling on this board texture 100% of the time. Even if somebody was playing 57 which is certainly possible (though spewy based on the original betting up to the point of the shove), you're not dead. You can still improve your hand.

But I'm thinking you're likely up against an overpair most of the time, and if you're lucky, an underset.

Maybe I'm a fish, but I'm not folding this hand.

Outcome???
 
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this is an easy call for me. literally the only hand that beats you is 5 7, and that's not even a likely holding. If 2nd to the nuts doesn't win, well you just are going to have to pay him off.


I would like to say that pre-flop I like 3 betting this with Jacks to try and get heads-up with another opponent. I don't like 99-JJ in a multiway. If an over-card comes (which happens fairly often, don't have an exact %) and the big bets continue to roll out, you pretty much have to fold.

We know nothing about Villain's tenancies, but unless he is very laggy, UTG is not opening with 57s, and CO is probably not calling 57s unless he is also LAG. This is another reason why a 3-bet is good here. If one of them did call with 57s, a strong 3-bet would get them folding quickly.


But, as it is I would never ever fold 2nd to the nuts on a board like this. He could have just as well hit his own set on the turn and be getting it in. even faced with ~4:1 pot odds which are pretty terrible, you still have the 2nd best hand.
 
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Same to you and your family.

Just a question first off. I understand the check call on the flop, and will do that from time to time myself, but why the turn? At this point, you should take the lead more often than not. IMO, you're playing it a bit too passive.

But, to get back to your original question, I'm calling on this board texture 100% of the time. Even if somebody was playing 57 which is certainly possible (though spewy based on the original betting up to the point of the shove), you're not dead. You can still improve your hand.

But I'm thinking you're likely up against an overpair most of the time, and if you're lucky, an underset.

Maybe I'm a fish, but I'm not folding this hand.

Outcome???
i was thinking of reraising turn,but i though Co will do all the work for me...

snap called shove...

Turn: ($0.61) 6
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Hero checks, UTG checks, CO bets $0.30, Hero calls $0.30, UTG raises to $4.62 and is all-in, CO calls $4.32, Hero calls $1.92 and is all-in

River: ($12.07) 2
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(3 players, 2 are all-in)

Results: $12.07 pot ($0.30 rake)
Final Board: J
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4
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8
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6
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2
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Hero showed J
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J
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and lost (-$2.42 net)
UTG showed Q
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Q
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and lost (-$4.82 net)
CO showed J
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A
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and won $11.77 ($6.95 net)
 
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i had small sample size for them... CO had 32/20 over 45 hands and UTG had 18/16 over 100 hands
 
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I love the way you played the hand. I feel like you could re-raise the turn, but I think calling is probably better in this spot since you are facing players that go nuts like in the hand you posted.
 
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it is a call, that i would have made directly! At this piont you always have the best hand, he risks his whole stack for 1/4 chance to hit the flush, which is quiet clear, one of the opponents i would put on a AA to QQ.
 
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If he have 75, you still have about 25% to win like 1/4, 10 outs, cards from deck, so Its easy call here mate. :) If he really played, 75 he would reraise you like for 1$ maybe BUT NOT ALL IN! What player could play nuts so dumb? He played like two pairs, or bigger pair like KK AA QQ,
 
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It's really not even a close call on the turn. But from the start, I don't mind the check to the preflop raiser, but he raised big UTG and it's MW. If you want to win a big pot, leading here is great. There's really not a ton of hands that are going to improve if it checks around. So if that's the case, it's better to just lead. This way you can set the price and you don't risk revealing your hand, because if they keep betting weak, you're losing value. If you CR, then you expose your hand.
 
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You played the hand very well in my mind and of course this is an easy call. Tough luck, well played.

Agree with what john said. Leading out on the flop is another excellent option to choose. You'd probably get raised on the turn if not on the flop by one of the two villains which we would welcome by shoving all in. :D
 
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Auto call. If one has a straight, so be it.

In my mind, we are way ahead here.
 
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