$2 NLHE 6-max: Do I have correct pot odds to call?

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Ok forgetting the preflop and flop (lack of) action, because this is 2nl and the implied odds are through the roof, I want to know if on the turn bet I have the correct pot odds to call the bet, assuming that my A is still live.
According my my calculations from Poker stove, I have 27.5% equity and the pot odds say I only need 24% to make the call. Am I right?
PokerStars - $0.02 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 5 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

UTG: $3.02 (VPIP: 36.79, PFR: 30.19, 3Bet Preflop: 3.23, Hands: 112)
CO: $0.46 (VPIP: 80.00, PFR: 20.00, 3Bet Preflop: 33.33, Hands: 5)
Hero (BTN): $2.00
SB: $2.09 (VPIP: 0.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 6)
BB: $2.33 (VPIP: 9.09, PFR: 9.09, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 13)

SB posts SB $0.01, BB posts BB $0.02

Pre Flop: (pot: $0.03) Hero has 7:heart: A:heart:

fold, CO calls $0.02, Hero raises to $0.08, SB raises to $0.14, BB calls $0.12, CO calls $0.12, Hero calls $0.06

Flop: ($0.56, 4 players) 2:heart: Q:club: K:spade:
SB checks, BB checks, CO checks, Hero checks

Turn: ($0.56, 4 players) 4:heart:
SB checks, BB bets $0.26, fold, Hero calls $0.26, fold

River: ($1.08, 2 players) 5:diamond:
BB bets $0.40, fold

BB wins $1.04
 
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Ok forgetting the preflop and flop (lack of) action, because this is 2nl and the implied odds are through the roof, I want to know if on the turn bet I have the correct pot odds to call the bet, assuming that my A is still live.
According my my calculations from Poker stove, I have 27.5% equity and the pot odds say I only need 24% to make the call. Am I right?
PokerStars - $0.02 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 5 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

UTG: $3.02 (VPIP: 36.79, PFR: 30.19, 3Bet Preflop: 3.23, Hands: 112)
CO: $0.46 (VPIP: 80.00, PFR: 20.00, 3Bet Preflop: 33.33, Hands: 5)
Hero (BTN): $2.00
SB: $2.09 (VPIP: 0.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 6)
BB: $2.33 (VPIP: 9.09, PFR: 9.09, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 13)

SB posts SB $0.01, BB posts BB $0.02

Pre Flop: (pot: $0.03) Hero has 7 A

fold, CO calls $0.02, Hero raises to $0.08, SB raises to $0.14, BB calls $0.12, CO calls $0.12, Hero calls $0.06

Flop: ($0.56, 4 players) 2 Q K
SB checks, BB checks, CO checks, Hero checks

Turn: ($0.56, 4 players) 4
SB checks, BB bets $0.26, fold, Hero calls $0.26, fold

River: ($1.08, 2 players) 5
BB bets $0.40, fold

BB wins $1.04

Call on turn is OK and calculations are right 24% need to call is correct which is less than your equity of 27.5 :)
.26/(1.08) ~ 24%
 
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I'm not sure why you're making the assumption that your Ace is still live?
 
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BB seems nitty so I doubt he called the 3 bet too light. The A may actually have reverse implied odds here when you hit it. If you hit and he bets again, are you calling? On the other hand you have some implied odds when you hit your flush and can probably squeeze a bet out of him. I think calling turn is fine but assuming hitting an Ace rag is good in 3 bet multiway pots could be costly.
 
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Ummmmmmmm YOU Have flush??? Get it in lol

Am i missing something?? We have the best hand and ur calling behind.

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Fold pre

As played
Bet flop
Bet turn
Jam river.

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Nvm read what he said afterwards lol cant delete due to phone and at work hah
 
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I'm not sure why you're making the assumption that your Ace is still live?

I put BB on a KJ KT type hand, and I'll explain below (maybe I was wrong)

BB seems nitty so I doubt he called the 3 bet too light. The A may actually have reverse implied odds here when you hit it. If you hit and he bets again, are you calling? On the other hand you have some implied odds when you hit your flush and can probably squeeze a bet out of him. I think calling turn is fine but assuming hitting an Ace rag is good in 3 bet multiway pots could be costly.

Yep BB seemed nitty to me, but I think he wanted to play against the extremely big fish to his right in position. What he didn't realise was that the fish I was also Iso raising and my self were both going to call. I put him on a KJ KT type range which would still be ahead of the 4bet fish in the SB (I know he's a fish because he was playing 1 table and his 3bet was a joke)

Essentially you and Hilbilly are both right, that there is a chance my Ace wasn't live, but when I called I thought it was good. Calling a river bet if I paired would have depended on the size but I thought because his turn bet was so small, that the river bet would have been a call too had I paired.

Ummmmmmmm YOU Have flush??? Get it in lol

Am i missing something?? We have the best hand and ur calling behind.

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Fold pre

As played
Bet flop
Bet turn
Jam river.

............

Nvm read what he said afterwards lol cant delete due to phone and at work hah

Wasn't a flush mate, the river fell diamond
 
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Ohh my bad that format spade looked like heart

Tired eyes ... reason y i aint playin mon tues too much lol
 
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I think you played well, I do not completely have played better congratulations and good luck
 
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Auto call on turn.

Said above if your A is still live, then more reason to call because those added outs.

Aside from it, implied odds is on your side.
 
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Thank you guys, I've got the advice I was after in this thread :) Should be moving up as soon as I hit $300 on 295 atm. Moved up a week ago, and variance was not kind so had to move back down and regrind.
 
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yeah just fold pre bro, if you had suited A's a can see a call, but we have no info on vilain, and the only advantage we habe here is pos
 
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A's is suited mate :) tbh it was a loose call even with suited A7 but the implied odds are through the roof at 2nl.
 
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Yes indeed you bluffing if you're right and I think he could have played no evil, however, learn more
 
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Limp behind pre with A7s whole hand would have been cheaper that way. Raising a limping fish has almost no fold equity so better to do it with more stronger hands than A7s.

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That is incorrect, there are two types of limping fish, the passive ones who fold flop, and the ones who call down. Either way A7s is still way ahead of both of their ranges so I would be wanting to be putting money in the pot when ahead, and with position.
 
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Limp behind pre with A7s whole hand would have been cheaper that way. Raising a limping fish has almost no fold equity so better to do it with more stronger hands than A7s.

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Really?? You need to be iso raising fish here on the button super wide. I can see if UTG, MP and CO all limped and they are all kind of fishy to limp along here but with one limped in the CO and me on the button, I am raising 76s+ A2s+ 22+ A7+ and all broadways and playing postflop poker IP against a fish if he chooses to call. I am sure I can play better then a limp caller post flop and make plenty of value in the long term.
 
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Oh yes you have odds to call and possibly additional implied odds.
 
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