$2 NLHE 6-max: Could i get more value??

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ZOOM no stats or info but just wondering if i could get more value from him on the river?? cheers for any comments!!
I know i should probably c bet, but 4 tabling zoom led to that mistake.

poker stars $0.01/$0.02 No Limit Hold'em - 6 players - View hand 2558052
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BTN: $4.33
SB: $2.17
BB: $2.03
UTG: $2.00
Hero (MP): $2.33
CO: $1.94

Pre Flop: ($0.03) Hero is MP with J :club: A :diamond:
1 fold, Hero raises to $0.06, CO calls $0.06, 1 fold, SB calls $0.05, 1 fold

Flop: ($0.20) K :spade: 8 :club: A :spade: (3 players)
SB checks, Hero checks, CO checks

Turn: ($0.20) J :diamond: (3 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $0.12, CO folds, SB calls $0.12

River: ($0.44) K :club: (2 players)
SB checks, Hero checks
 
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Yes. If someone checks there, then bet. Unlikely you're going to get bluff shoved on, especially at these stakes. It's a pretty straight forward value bet.
 
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why not cbet the flop , and pot the turn ?
 
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ya surely have to bet this flop, 3-way there are so many draws in villains, especially CO's range.

After CO folds, your in position with 2P, If SB hit trips OTR, he would bet 98% of the time at these stakes, so, yeah bet river

It's good ya realize ya missed value all over the place here.
 
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Yes. If someone checks there, then bet. Unlikely you're going to get bluff shoved on, especially at these stakes. It's a pretty straight forward value bet.

how about value check raised with KQ, KJ QT type hands
 
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Why just you check the flop instead of cbet?
 
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He said why right in his post. But yes, the flop should be a bet.
 
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why not cbet the flop , and pot the turn ?
As stated in original post I should of c bet, why would I pot the turn though, looks like you are giving any draws a hard time to call plus worse hands. 2/3 pot enables the hands that are behind us to call as well.
 
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Yes. If someone checks there, then bet. Unlikely you're going to get bluff shoved on, especially at these stakes. It's a pretty straight forward value bet.
Do you know what we are getting value from? Any other A is chopping beat by a set now boat, and lose to any K. If we c bet as I was supposed to are PP calling? Would you not expect their range to be dominated by KJ KQ Ax rather than QQ JJ and KK which are the few worse hands calling three streets? Cheers
 
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Do you know what we are getting value from? Any other A is chopping beat by a set now boat, and lose to any K. If we c bet as I was supposed to are PP calling? Would you not expect their range to be dominated by KJ KQ Ax rather than QQ JJ and KK which are the few worse hands calling three streets? Cheers

I'm not sure about your first question, as it depends.

As far as worse hands calling, I think it's pretty straight forward. Jx, 99, TT and maybe some other stubborn small pairs. I think that these stakes, you can expect a lot of bad calls, so might as well bet since the calling range will be wider than it should be. I think the basic thing you should keep in mind in these spots is that, yes, you can be CR and blown off your hand. It's pretty much always going to be for value though, so those decisions are easy. What's going to happen MORE often in these spots though is that someone will have a weaker hand. And at these stakes they will call too much, so you need to exploit that. If they fold in these spots, that's fine. You have to weigh the value of being blown off your hand, versus all the spots where they will call with worse. These later times will happen more often than getting moved off your hand. In the long run if you don't bet in these spots, you'll be missing more value then if you had bet/folded.
 
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