$2 NLHE 6-max: Blind battle - 5 decisions in one hand

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This hand will be a 5-parter, spread over several days. I would like input on all 5 decisions, one at a time. I may have gotten them all correct, I may have botched them all, but whatever the case, I thought this was one of the most interesting hands I've ever played.



Reads: despite the hand count, very little. Villain is an unremarkable reg - other than his low c-bet %, nothing really stands out. I hardly even recognize his screen name, despite being in 250 pots vs him.



Part 1: preflop

PokerStars - $0.02 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 4 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

CO: 34 BB (VPIP: 75.00, PFR: 25.00, 3Bet Preflop: 25.00, Hands: 5)
BTN: 117.5 BB (VPIP: 29.77, PFR: 22.85, 3Bet Preflop: 7.58, Hands: 523)
SB: 100 BB (VPIP: 24.77, PFR: 17.61, 3Bet Preflop: 5.11, Hands: 1,600)
Hero (BB): 108.5 BB

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, Hero posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has A:diamond: 4:diamond:

fold, fold, SB raises to 2 BB, Hero ?????



Call or 3-bet?
(Or fold, but if you're advocating a fold here, GTFO! :p)
 
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give the stats of opponent exactlu on sb. In vacuum i would play call in 30% and 3bet in the rest of 70%.
 
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A4s is behind or at best flipping against the SB's range and easily dominated post flop. Calling defines your hand as weak and tells you nothing about the SB.

IMHO, the choice is not between calling or raising, but raising or folding. Three bet.
 
c9h13no3

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Call. Your hand flops a straight draw, flush draw, or pair quite often and you'd love to play an effectively deep pot (SPR = 24.5) for 3 streets with position.

And over 1700 hands, you should know things like:

-Steal percentage in the SB
-Flop C-bet percentage
-Turn C-bet percentage

These affect our decision to call vs. raise, but whatevs, it's still going to be a call in the majority of scenarios.
 
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With me having position and it being a min raise I will 3 bet to 7bb
 
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And over 1700 hands, you should know things like:

-Steal percentage in the SB
Would have to check, will post this evening. My HUD displays the general Steal %, not adjusted for the SB. IIRC, that was over 40%.

-Flop C-bet percentage
-Turn C-bet percentage
Both are a mere 40-45%. Exact numbers this evening.

I'll include his Fold to 3-bet % and Fold to c-bet% as well, then. IIRC, they were all rather low too.


I was kinda surprised I had so many hands on him, because his screen name didn't ring any bells. I'm assuming that means he's not very tricky.

He is down over 2.5 BIs vs me over that hand sample, though.
 
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Call. A4s in BB vs SB a great starting hand.
 
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Villain stats:

General:

VPIP: 25 / PFR: 15 / 3B: 5 / 4B: 5
Steal%: 41 / Fold to Steal: 78 / Fold to 3-bet: 39 / Fold to 4-bet: 40

In the SB:

VPIP: 29 / PFR: 19 / 3B: 7 / 4B: 8
Steal%: 48 / Fold to Steal: 79 / Fold to 3-bet: 50

Postflop:

AFq Flop: 44 / AFq Turn: 47 / AFq River: 50
C-bet Flop: 44 / C-bet Turn: 62 / C-bet River: 67
Fold to c-bet Flop: 53 / Fold to c-bet Turn: 60 / Fold to c-bet River: -
WtSD: 46
 
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He doesn't fold much to 3-bets, so call pre.
 
c9h13no3

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He barely cbets either. Easy call.
 
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I called.


Part 2: The Flop

PokerStars - $0.02 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 4 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

CO: 34 BB (VPIP: 75.00, PFR: 25.00, 3Bet Preflop: 25.00, Hands: 5)
BTN: 117.5 BB (VPIP: 29.77, PFR: 22.85, 3Bet Preflop: 7.58, Hands: 523)
SB: 100 BB (VPIP: 24.77, PFR: 17.61, 3Bet Preflop: 5.11, Hands: 1,600)
Hero (BB): 108.5 BB

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, Hero posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has A:diamond: 4:diamond:

fold, fold, SB raises to 2 BB, Hero calls 1 BB

Flop: (4 BB, 2 players) 4:spade: 4:club: J:club:
SB checks, Hero ?????



To bet or to slowplay?
If you bet, how much?
 
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Since you didn't C-Bet you haven't really defined the Villain's hand and defined your range to include more 4s. No real reason to bet if he has a hand that will call a raise he'll either raise or call the turn. If he doesn't he may improve. Checking does give him the flush draw for free, but it is a small part of his range.

No reason to bet, so check.
 
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I'm betting 1/2 pot here with pretty much my whole range.
 
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part one=3bet. part 2= bet this flop for value obviously and to start inflating pot.(but as WV said above, still betting here even without trips).
 
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Why 3bet pre?[/quote

because he min raises from the small blind to 2BB which doesnt look mega strong or anything(looks like a standard blind steal), also because we are in position with a suited ace and therefor it seems like the right play because we can pick it up right there if he folds OR we can play it perfectly IP depending on the runnout.


I generally preffer 3betting than flatting in these situations. Because we can inflate pot beforehand(we have the best hand for the most part in these spots) ,take it down right there and have more chances of getting paid off if we hit. Also if we brick and theres a K high flop, i think we can take it down with any cbet since we 3bet pre and if he flats with a small PP it would be hard for him to continue without a set.
 
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Bet 2/3 - 3/4 pot on flop. Trips and a flush draw that we can rep, no reason why not to get a bit more in here.
 
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Why 3bet pre?[/quote

because he min raises from the small blind to 2BB which doesnt look mega strong or anything(looks like a standard blind steal), also because we are in position with a suited ace and therefor it seems like the right play because we can pick it up right there if he folds OR we can play it perfectly IP depending on the runnout.


I generally preffer 3betting than flatting in these situations. Because we can inflate pot beforehand(we have the best hand for the most part in these spots) ,take it down right there and have more chances of getting paid off if we hit. Also if we brick and theres a K high flop, i think we can take it down with any cbet since we 3bet pre and if he flats with a small PP it would be hard for him to continue without a set.

When we're behind is really the only time when he's going to call the 3bet, so we only inflate the pot pre when we have the worst of it.
 
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When we're behind is really the only time when he's going to call the 3bet, so we only inflate the pot pre when we have the worst of it.
But he's going to fold plenty right of the bat, making it immediately profitable. And even if he calls, we'll still have both position and the initiative, so he's going to be folding a lot of whiffed flops too.



As for the hand as played, I'm betting at least 70% of my entire range in this spot, so I bet 3/4 pot.


Part 3: The Flop, Again.

PokerStars - $0.02 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 4 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

CO: 34 BB (VPIP: 75.00, PFR: 25.00, 3Bet Preflop: 25.00, Hands: 5)
BTN: 117.5 BB (VPIP: 29.77, PFR: 22.85, 3Bet Preflop: 7.58, Hands: 523)
SB: 100 BB (VPIP: 24.77, PFR: 17.61, 3Bet Preflop: 5.11, Hands: 1,600)
Hero (BB): 108.5 BB

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, Hero posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has A:diamond: 4:diamond:

fold, fold, SB raises to 2 BB, Hero calls 1 BB

Flop: (4 BB, 2 players) 4:spade: 4:club: J:club:
SB checks, Hero bets 3 BB, SB raises to 12 BB, Hero ?????



Fold, call or 3-bet?
 
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Call. He could have Jx or a pocket pair in his hand or be raising a draw. A fold here is a bad choice. Re-raising can put you in a jam or fold position.
 
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call to keep all of his bluffs in.or his value hands that dont put us on a 4.
 
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Call and hope for the A of clubs on the turn. (Easy choice)
 
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Part 1: Call
Part 2: Bet 1/2 pot
Part 3: Flat
 
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