$2 NLHE 6-max: AKs oop agressor pf how to play in this spot ?

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Hello, following hand I've just played, after my 3bet pf on BB the flop was totally missed, what is the best move ?

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** Caelin - €2 Max [Hold'em] (0.01|0.02 NL - Cash Game) real money

Hovmesteren sitting in seat 1 with €3.44
Mr_Tilt sitting in seat 2 with €1.94
Luce68 sitting in seat 3 with €2.18
ivanduboff sitting in seat 4 with €3.54
pifpaf sitting in seat 5 with €2.80
Sammogon sitting in seat 6 with €1.57[Dealer]

Hovmesteren posted the small blind - €0.01
Mr_Tilt posted the big blind - €0.02

** Dealing cards to Mr_Tilt: Kd, Ad

Luce68 called - €0.02
ivanduboff folded
pifpaf raised to €0.10
Sammogon folded
Hovmesteren folded
Mr_Tilt raised to €0.31
Luce68 folded
pifpaf called - €0.23

** Dealing the flop: 7s, 4s, 8s

Mr_Tilt checked
pifpaf checked

** Dealing the turn: 9d

Mr_Tilt checked
pifpaf bet - €0.34
Mr_Tilt called - €0.34

** Dealing the river: 8h

Mr_Tilt checked
pifpaf checked

Mr_Tilt shows: Kd, Ad
pifpaf shows: Ks, Ah

Mr_Tilt wins €0.66 from the main pot

pifpaf wins €0.65 from the main pot
 
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Since you are OOP, I might have bet small-ish on this flop. You will look strong, and he will fold a lot(?), but I am reaching, since we have no info on villain and his tendencies. A c/r OTT would have been a powerful move, but, again, it depends on how villain plays. Calling here is a bit meh IMO, but folding is even more meh.

Depending on villain, bet flop.
c/r turn>calling>folding.
 
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Since you are OOP, I might have bet small-ish on this flop. You will look strong, and he will fold a lot(?), but I am reaching, since we have no info on villain and his tendencies. A c/r OTT would have been a powerful move, but, again, it depends on how villain plays. Calling here is a bit meh IMO, but folding is even more meh.

Depending on villain, bet flop.
c/r turn>calling>folding.


Ty for feedback!
with this kind of stats, what could I do oop ? cbet flop ? if he call what on turn ?

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I'm cool with how this played out. You could also fold the turn, as some small pairs are in his range. But there's probably enough AQ, KQ type hands that a call could show a profit.
 
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I'm cool with how this played out. You could also fold the turn, as some small pairs are in his range. But there's probably enough AQ, KQ type hands that a call could show a profit.

Thank you for your feedback! I'd probably fold flop if vilain had bet, since he had flush draw K high he could bet flop, but i called turn as he showed weakness :D
 
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Its okish imo, no need to turn AK into bluff, maybe bet flop but he probably wont fold FD so its ok to check, probably bet turn cuz he checked back and 9 dont help him cuz he would bet overpairs and most probably FD and the only TJs that 3bet bluff wont c4b so youre fine, also after that you need to fire river. Thats how i would play but playing it like this is not a bad way either
 
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Its okish imo, no need to turn AK into bluff, maybe bet flop but he probably wont fold FD so its ok to check, probably bet turn cuz he checked back and 9 dont help him cuz he would bet overpairs and most probably FD and the only TJs that 3bet bluff wont c4b so youre fine, also after that you need to fire river. Thats how i would play but playing it like this is not a bad way either

Yes, fire on river would be a great move :D
Thank you!
 
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If we turn our hand into a bluff by firing turn we nees to fire river too, two overs gutshots and stuff likr AK might fold instead of split. I only refered to bet turn bet river after he checked back flop...

Im also fine with how its already played too...
 
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If we turn our hand into a bluff by firing turn we nees to fire river too, two overs gutshots and stuff likr AK might fold instead of split. I only refered to bet turn bet river after he checked back flop...

Im also fine with how its already played too...

Yes you right, check/call turn and lead after second 8 on river would look like a bluff and could encourage him hero call
 
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Im not saying that, what i said was is that if you fire turn cuz he checked you need to fire river again, his hand might had some equity on turn that could call bet but with the river barrel our bet looks like a value bet to him and he might fold cuz his check flop, call turn line cant be strong and that kinda holding fold a lot to a second barrel.

You need to understand here that by betting turn and river We're turning our hand into bluff cuz we want better hands like weak pairs+draws to fold to 2 barrels we definitely dont do that for value, thats why i said that we are in a bluff mode. By betting as bluff we want better hamds to fold, by betting for value we want weaker hands to call, by bet turn bet river we will get lot more folds than by check call turn donk river, what sizing should you use?
It is more likely that he will call that bet lighter, but what he could possibly have that calls that river bet that we beat? So that is not value bet and as a bluff your line can only rep 8 which you dont have in yoir range...
 
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I think I just give up on a flop like that. No c-bet, and folding the turn.
Even if we're still ahead on the turn (which we don't know as he could still have small pocket pairs), we'd hate another spade, or a 6 or a T. Too many bad cards can come, too much uncertainty.
Or is that weak/nitty?
 
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Im not saying that, what i said was is that if you fire turn cuz he checked you need to fire river again, his hand might had some equity on turn that could call bet but with the river barrel our bet looks like a value bet to him and he might fold cuz his check flop, call turn line cant be strong and that kinda holding fold a lot to a second barrel.

You need to understand here that by betting turn and river We're turning our hand into bluff cuz we want better hands like weak pairs+draws to fold to 2 barrels we definitely dont do that for value, thats why i said that we are in a bluff mode. By betting as bluff we want better hamds to fold, by betting for value we want weaker hands to call, by bet turn bet river we will get lot more folds than by check call turn donk river, what sizing should you use?
It is more likely that he will call that bet lighter, but what he could possibly have that calls that river bet that we beat? So that is not value bet and as a bluff your line can only rep 8 which you dont have in yoir range...


Oh, I understood what you mean now, thank you for reply!
 
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