Originally Posted by MinhANguyen
Think that's a little results oriented. And when it is 25NL and especially onwards where people generally play better, c-betting here with AA is not that great.
Just because we check does not mean we are weak. We should still have AK/KQs/AA/KK/QQ in our range. And nobody's ever bluff-raising multi-way in a 3-bet pot OTT unless they're completely crazy.
Imo turn raises are almost always strong, whether the flop was checked around or bet. If they really wanted to bluff, they'd have stabbed the flop or stabbed the turn if they were OOP. I find this true for general population tendencies. Now if it were a creative reg who is a great hand reader and a sick bluffer, someone like Tom Dwan, we have to consider calling.
Naw, its 2NL. This type of play is pretty standard. I was just using it as an example that people are not playing perfect or even good poker at these stakes and are going to have much wider ranges then you are suggesting on a regular basis.
I'm not sure why you bring up 25NL when the hand was played at 2NL, I think there is a big difference between these player pools and I agree'd that against better villains checking sometimes is good.
It is also not that we will get bluffed because we check flop but we underrep our hand and that will lead to villains overplaying their hand thinking AK is good. They may even think that means their JJ is good and go with it at these stakes, people spaz all the time.
Moral of the post, people make bad plays at 2NL and we should capitalize on that instead of looking for reasons to fold/pot control against fish that will stack off light. As we move up and into harder player pools with more regs, I prefer your line.