$2 NLHE 6-max: 2nl zoom huge donkoff or cooler

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pokerstars Zoom Hand #154425959376: Hold'em No Limit ($0.01/$0.02) - 2016/06/07 19:47:33 WET [2016/06/07 14:47:33 ET]
Table 'Halley' 6-max Seat #1 is the button
Seat 1: ShrekOfAces ($2.18 in chips)
Seat 2: Mansur&Imran ($3.70 in chips)
Seat 3: themis_89@ho ($3.92 in chips)
Seat 4: joskis77 ($0.82 in chips)
Seat 5: Solpsimdp ($3.72 in chips)
Seat 6: lipeadeodato ($2.06 in chips)
Mansur&Imran: posts small blind $0.01
themis_89@ho: posts big blind $0.02
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to ShrekOfAces [Kc 7c]
joskis77: calls $0.02
Solpsimdp: folds
lipeadeodato: folds
ShrekOfAces: raises $0.05 to $0.07
Mansur&Imran: calls $0.06
themis_89@ho: calls $0.05
joskis77: calls $0.05
*** FLOP *** [8c Td Qc]
Mansur&Imran: checks
themis_89@ho: checks
joskis77: checks
ShrekOfAces: bets $0.21
Mansur&Imran: calls $0.21
themis_89@ho: calls $0.21
joskis77: calls $0.21
*** TURN *** [8c Td Qc] [Tc]
Mansur&Imran: checks
themis_89@ho: checks
joskis77: checks
ShrekOfAces: bets $0.84
Mansur&Imran: calls $0.84
themis_89@ho: folds
joskis77: calls $0.54 and is all-in
*** RIVER *** [8c Td Qc Tc] [Jh]
Mansur&Imran: checks
ShrekOfAces: bets $1.06 and is all-in
Mansur&Imran: calls $1.06
*** SHOW DOWN ***
ShrekOfAces: shows [Kc 7c] (a flush, King high)
Mansur&Imran: shows [4c Jc] (a flush, Queen high)
ShrekOfAces collected $2.63 from side pot
joskis77: shows [9h Qh] (a straight, Eight to Queen)
ShrekOfAces collected $2.64 from main pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $5.46 Main pot $2.64. Side pot $2.63. | Rake $0.19
Board [8c Td Qc Tc Jh]
Seat 1: ShrekOfAces (button) showed [Kc 7c] and won ($5.27) with a flush, King high
Seat 2: Mansur&Imran (small blind) showed [4c Jc] and lost with a flush, Queen high
Seat 3: themis_89@ho (big blind) folded on the Turn
Seat 4: joskis77 showed [9h Qh] and lost with a straight, Eight to Queen
Seat 5: Solpsimdp folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 6: lipeadeodato folded before Flop (didn't bet)


obviously I won this hand but would like to think was this a cooler for them or should they have found folds, was shocked not to be up against the nut flush
 
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Huge donk off but fine post imo. Why are you playing this pre? Its okay to steal but is this readless? If you have a limper pre you then have to get 3 players off the hand and if he's open limping pre he won't struggle to call your raise.

The table looks soft from the hand and I wouldn't be raising this readless - guess I don't play zoom, but tighten up if the table is loose.
 
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Yeah, I don't like isoing with K7s here OTB in Zoom. You don't have much fold equity, and blinds call a lot because they're "priced in." Limper usually doesn't fold either. And the weird thing I've found is that some fish limp linear ranges, stuff like KJo/K10/A7o/QJo, so you might be value-owning yourself post. Eh, call me a nit, but I'm just folding pre.

Postflop.... Don't c-bet that board 4-way. Check and go for a delayed c-bet if it checks around. You have like zero fold equity on this flop, and if anyone has two pair +, you lose your c-bet and a turn card to a CR. And a short stack might just jam a Q here.
 
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Pre is fine, but don't c-bet that board. Just be happy you got the free card. You're not folding out enough hands w/ a semi bluff there. It's just a really bad c-bet on that texture MW.

River, if he checks, then yes, get it in. Only street you really fubbed is the flop.
 
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Pre is fine, but don't c-bet that board. Just be happy you got the free card. You're not folding out enough hands w/ a semi bluff there. It's just a really bad c-bet on that texture MW.

River, if he checks, then yes, get it in. Only street you really fubbed is the flop.

Looking back i do agree checking the flop makes more sense especially getting 3 callers there if the river bricks and i get donked on i probably have to fold
 
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Yeah, I don't like isoing with K7s here OTB in Zoom. You don't have much fold equity, and blinds call a lot because they're "priced in." Limper usually doesn't fold either. And the weird thing I've found is that some fish limp linear ranges, stuff like KJo/K10/A7o/QJo, so you might be value-owning yourself post. Eh, call me a nit, but I'm just folding pre.

Postflop.... Don't c-bet that board 4-way. Check and go for a delayed c-bet if it checks around. You have like zero fold equity on this flop, and if anyone has two pair +, you lose your c-bet and a turn card to a CR. And a short stack might just jam a Q here.
I figured k7s was ok to open OTB 6 handed, pretty much only raising the pot to with the view to flop a draw not a great play but if it comes off at 2nl youre almost guaranteed to stack off
 
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Huge donk off but fine post imo. Why are you playing this pre? Its okay to steal but is this readless? If you have a limper pre you then have to get 3 players off the hand and if he's open limping pre he won't struggle to call your raise.

The table looks soft from the hand and I wouldn't be raising this readless - guess I don't play zoom, but tighten up if the table is loose.
Wasnt too fussed by the limper they are generally incredibly weak especially at 6max 2nl zoom occasionally they are 'slowplaying' a monster but very very rare normally complete trash
 
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Bad board to c-bet, but otherwise, nh!
 
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yeah check back usually here. fold equity is almost 0 with 3 other players and this board. Betting certainly isn't bad though can lead to some good situations, like heads up play or this one. Turn/river.. what else you gonna do?
 
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