2 Coolers or Bad Play ?

Jurn8

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Ok these were consecutive hands on the same table in today's session, is this just bad luck or bad play? Any improvements on this ?

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HAND #1
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poker stars, $0.02/$0.05 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 9 Players
Hand History Converter by Stoxpoker

Hero (BB): $5 (100 bb)
UTG: $10.17 (203.4 bb)
UTG+1: $6.80 (136 bb)
MP1: $4.93 (98.6 bb)
MP2: $2.37 (47.4 bb)
MP3: $13.21 (264.2 bb)
CO: $4.32 (86.4 bb)
BTN: $6 (120 bb)
SB: $6.72 (134.4 bb)

Pre-Flop: Hero is BB with J:heart: J:diamond:
UTG calls $0.05, 2 folds, MP2 raises to $0.15, MP3 calls $0.15, CO folds, BTN calls $0.15, SB calls $0.13, Hero raises to $2, UTG folds, MP2 raises to $2.37 and is all-in, MP3 raises to $13.21 and is all-in, BTN folds, SB calls $6.57 and is all-in, Hero calls $3 and is all-in

Flop: ($21.01) K:heart: 4:spade: 2:diamond: (4 players, 4 are all-in)
Turn: ($21.01) 3:diamond: (4 players, 4 are all-in)
River: ($21.01) T:diamond: (4 players, 4 are all-in)

Results:[spoil] $21.01 pot ($1.05 rake)
SB showed 5:club: 6:diamond: (a straight, Two to Six) and won $19.96 ($13.24 net)
MP3 mucked Q:diamond: Q:spade: (a pair of Queens) and lost (-$6.72 net)
Hero mucked J:heart: J:diamond: (a pair of Jacks) and lost (-$5 net)
MP2 mucked A:diamond: A:spade: (a pair of Aces) and lost (-$2.37 net)
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HAND #1
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Poker Stars, $0.02/$0.05 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 9 Players
Hand History Converter by Stoxpoker

Hero (UTG): $5.28 (105.6 bb)
UTG+1: $10.17 (203.4 bb)
MP1: $6.47 (129.4 bb)
MP2: $4.93 (98.6 bb)
MP3: $2.37 (47.4 bb)
CO: $13.21 (264.2 bb)
BTN: $4.32 (86.4 bb)
SB: $6 (120 bb)
BB: $2.35 (47 bb)

Pre-Flop: Hero is UTG with Q:heart: Q:club:
Hero raises to $0.20, UTG+1 folds, MP1 raises to $0.35, 5 folds, BB raises to $1.40, Hero calls $1.20, MP1 raises to $6.47 and is all-in, BB calls $0.95 and is all-in, Hero calls $3.88 and is all-in

Flop: ($12.93) 6:heart: A:spade: 7:spade: (3 players, 3 are all-in)
Turn: ($12.93) 8:diamond: (3 players, 3 are all-in)
River: ($12.93) 5:heart: (3 players, 3 are all-in)

Results:[spoil] $12.93 pot ($0.60 rake)
Hero showed Q:heart: Q:club: (a pair of Queens) and lost (-$5.28 net)
MP1 showed A:heart: A:club: (three of a kind, Aces) and won $5.61 ($0.33 net)
BB showed 9:spade: K:heart: (a straight, Five to Nine) and won $6.72 ($4.37 net)
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Any feedback is much appreciated, thankyou
 
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baudib1

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I think the first hand is a fold. First of all, your three-bet size is a tad ridiculous. Come over the top for 40 cents or so and fold to the multiple shoves.

In the second, reraise with QQ. I don't mind the call as I think at this level they have way too much besides KK/AA.
 
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^^^

Couldn't agree more w/ baudib1.

The first hand raise is waay ridiculous. You're basically getting calls from things that beat you 95% of the time. You just can't put 40% of your stack in on J/J

Second Hand, yea I'm calling but I'm not pistpumping.

Without reads on players it is a little bit more difficult to tell
 
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Folding QQ is tough there. You will often find with that kind of action that both players have AK. AK occurs so much more frequently than KK/AA that QQ is a favorite against a range of QQ+/AK.

Without reads, it's tough to do. If you four-bet and then get multiple shoves, then I can see a tight fold. Again, I don't think it's ever wrong to push with QQ at microstakes.
 
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I agree, would have folded the first hand and would not have raised to $2, maybe 1, and would have folded and saved my $4, assuming one of those all ins have a higher pocket pair, so you'd be 1 to 4 to win the pot.

the second hand I don't know if I would have gotten away from, might have done what you did or shoved preflop (with the same end result). I don't really think you made a mistake on this hand.

keep in mind, i don't know what I'm talking about.
 
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I fold both based on the action
 
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Ok cheers for your help guys, I made a big raise because I was trying to isolate just 1 player because it was a multi way pot. Looks like I played the wrong move but hey Im still learning, thanks for advice all.
 
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I think it IS bad luck, but you need to be a bit tighter, remember, you dont have to win all the hands, just all the chips.
 
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