$2/$4 Omaha Hi Cap Table

Hi, I was just discussing this hand with my brother and we were both analyzing the call from player E. In my opinion he made the correct call
but my brother argues he did not. What do you guys think? I would think that with this being a CAP table his call makes more sense, either way I am just happy I won.

full tilt poker Game #8423911598: Table Solano (6 max) - $2/$4 - $160 Cap Pot Limit Omaha Hi - 0:08:27 ET - 2008/10/10
Seat 1: tubojunk ($170)
Seat 2: A ($810.20)
Seat 3: B($160)
Seat 4: C ($240)
Seat 5: D ($444.95)
Seat 6: E ($1,269.85)
E posts the small blind of $2
tubojunk posts the big blind of $4
The button is in seat #5
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to tubojunk [7d 5h 8h 7s]
A is sitting out
B folds
C folds
D folds
E calls $2
tubojunk checks
*** FLOP *** [5s 6c 9s]
E bets $8
tubojunk has 15 seconds left to act
tubojunk raises to $20
E raises to $68
tubojunk has 15 seconds left to act
tubojunk raises to $156, and is capped
E calls $88, and is capped
tubojunk shows [7d 5h 8h 7s]
E shows [6s 6h Ts Jh]
*** TURN *** [5s 6c 9s] [7h]
*** RIVER *** [5s 6c 9s 7h] [5c]
tubojunk shows a full house, Sevens full of Fives
E shows a full house, Sixes full of Fives
tubojunk wins the pot ($317) with a full house, Sevens full of Fives
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $320 | Rake $3
Board: [5s 6c 9s 7h 5c]
Seat 1: tubojunk (big blind) showed [7d 5h 8h 7s] and won ($317) with a full house, Sevens full of Fives
Seat 2: A is sitting out
Seat 3: B didn't bet (folded)
Seat 4: C didn't bet (folded)
Seat 5: D (button) didn't bet (folded)
Seat 6: E (small blind) showed [6s 6h Ts Jh] and lost with a full house, Sixes full of Fives

If both stacks aren't in the middle in this hand then you are playing it wrong. Both hands are standard in shipping in a HU pot imo.

switch0723 said:

If both stacks aren't in the middle in this hand then you are playing it wrong. Both hands are standard in shipping in a HU pot imo.

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agreed, very standard play on the flop

thanks, thats what i figured

flush and boat draw I don't think you can fault him the least. He probably sees it as your lone straight vs his 2 flush and boat draw. He probably dindt' need to reraise but I don't think its an outrageous play. Looking at his stack he was probably freerolling anyway

right, my bro basically agrees in that all the money would have been shoved no matter what. however, he argues that he should have just called my raise to see another card since he didnt have the nut flush or nut fh draw and if it was a bad turn he could have gotten away. of course, when the turn came and he added the nut straight draw he would have capped it anyways and all the money would be shoved

This is how I see it.

Dealt to tubojunk [7d 5h 8h 7s]
A is sitting out
B folds
C folds
D folds
E calls $2
tubojunk checks
*** FLOP *** [5s 6c 9s] < flopped the str8 but no redraws to higher str8 Also flush draw on board
E bets $8
tubojunk has 15 seconds left to act
tubojunk raises to $20< good reraise to push him off
E raises to $68 < this is where you should start to rethink what you have Best bet is to call
tubojunk has 15 seconds left to act
tubojunk raises to $156, and is capped
E calls $88, and is capped
tubojunk shows [7d 5h 8h 7s]
E shows [6s 6h Ts Jh]< he has more outs than you do at this point (15)
*** TURN *** [5s 6c 9s] 7♥
*** RIVER *** [5s 6c 9s 7h] 5♣
tubojunk shows a full house, Sevens full of Fives
E shows a full house, Sixes full of Fives
tubojunk wins the pot ($317) with a full house, Sevens full of Fives

You got very lucky. Basically he had you outdrawn. 13+ outs is what you want. His play IMO was correct. Yours wasn't.
You will find that overall you will be overall losing playing hands like that and betting that way. Trust me, I learned the hard way of this.

damn, bubbas right, villain is 58% to win on flop in the odds calculator. Only problem with this is, hindsight is 20/20. I think even with a good read on the villain its gonna be hard to give him credit for this type of hand, maybe you could consider he has the nut straight along with you and the draw to go with it. If you wanna put him on that you probably want to slow down there too.

I don't know how dude was playing but I've seen some people do some outrageous stuff on that type of flop without any where near the nuts or even the draw the villain had. I've never played 2/4, or PLO with a cap at that, maybe they don't make outrageous plays where you were playing like that, but on that flop and remember hindsight is 20/20, I wouldve been all in too most likely in a heads up situation.

If the villain before that hand was playing the math more than his cards than I'd probably call his reraise and make sure I liked the turn first. If he was lacking the proper math throughout the game to know to raise only when he likes his hand math wise than I'm reraising on that flop. Because not everyone plays omaha how your supposed to cash game 6-handed. I'd like to say most people don't play omaha how its supposed to math wise, I know I fall victim to the math myself sometimes, but thats what I try to limit.

All in all, thats the point of BRM and playing at the correct stakes, because if you lose this hand if your bankroll is right for these stakes than you'll be aight, and I think thats the most important thing. because I know on the microgaming network, play up to that level I've seen people reraise with pretty much everything you can think of in hu pots its crazy. But those are the same people that seemingly have the necessary bankroll to play as aggy as they want at the stakes they play. So it depended on your read there of the player how good you thought he was as far as that