$2/4 FLHE Full Ring: Whether to Continue Flop Semi-Bluff on the Turn?

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Blinds are both $2, 9-player table, cash, live at casino.

Players 3, 5, 7, limp in and I raise from seat 8 with AhJd, seat 9 folds; I have last position on the hand; my raise is called from both blinds and by all remaining players.

Pot is $24.

Flop is 7d8s4h, all players check to me, and I semi-bluff with fixed $2 bet. Blinds call, #3 folds, players 5 and 7 call. Only one player folded to my semi-bluff. Pot is $34.

Turn is 2s, not threatening, all 4 remaining players check to me. I bet for $4. Three players call and one folds. Pot is now $50.

River is Ks. That is an overcard to me, I have no pair, and 3 spades are now on the board. Everyone checks to me. I check as well, since I am last and I have no hand except Ace high.

On showdown, players show Td9h (4 to a straight), AcKc (paired K on River), 8c9s (paired 8 on Flop), and I have junk.

So how did I do? Was I right to semi-bluff the Flop, and make the continuation bet on the Turn? Obviously I lost the hand, but I am more concerned with how it was played than with the result.

Thanks, ahead of time.
 
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bumping, hoping for some feedback, please ...
 
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Hi. You didn't give any information on the other players or how the table is playing (tight, loose, passive, etc.). With that flop though, given how passive everyone has been it seems like a good spot to lead.

After everyone calls though unless you think there is a good chance (based on how they've played previously) that you'll get the specific players who are in the pot to fold, against that many players I'd only bet again on the turn and/or river for value. On most limit tables I've played you're just not going to push many people out of a $34+ pot with a $4 bet, even if they have very marginal hands.

So if you thought you were ahead on the turn, OK...if you were bluffing or semi-bluffing imo it probably isn't a winning play against most tables in the long run.

Just out of curiosity, how loose/tight was the table playing?
 
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It's not really a semi-bluff on the flop since you only hold over cards.

The better line here is to check back on the flop looking to pair up and fold to any bet on later streets if not.

The real "mistake" was betting the turn when nobody left on the flop. You can pretty much be certain you do NOT have the best hand now so there's no reason to put money in.

On the river you finally came to your senses and the guy with AK missed a bet.
 
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Thanks to all. In retrospect, I thought the turn bet might have been a mistake, since I was not getting the desired effect of people with marginal draw hands dropping out. The table was running pretty average on tightness, but a bit on the passive side. I guess I would have got more push-back (and thus more information) from opponents who were a little more aggressive, especially the players with top pair 88 and with AK in the pocket. Instead, I just initiated making the pot bigger for everybody's draws!
 
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Check the flop. There is no point in betting that flop. Too many players in the hand that will call with air if they think you have air for $2. AK is for sure calling you on the flop.
 
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Thanks to all. In retrospect, I thought the turn bet might have been a mistake, since I was not getting the desired effect of people with marginal draw hands dropping out. The table was running pretty average on tightness, but a bit on the passive side. I guess I would have got more push-back (and thus more information) from opponents who were a little more aggressive, especially the players with top pair 88 and with AK in the pocket. Instead, I just initiated making the pot bigger for everybody's draws!

A word of advice when asking for analysis:

Leave out the information about showdown and the other players' holdings, it will make for better input from the community.
 
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