10NLHE pocket jacks to shove

Hi guys, I was playing 10 NLHE when this hand happened. I got JJ UTG. I raised to 26 cents. A person min re raised me and I didn't read a lot of strength so I 3 bet to 1.2 dollars. He flat called. Since he flat called and didn't re raise I removed KK and AA from his range. The flop had 3 undercards in it. He checked and I decided since he probably had something like AK it was time to take the pot right there. I raised 80 cents and he flat called. The turn was a queen. He checked, this queen was a dangerous card for me and I decided it was time to take the pot again because I didn't see any strength in his hand. I jammed for like 5 more dollars, and he called and flipped up KK. Since he didnt 4 bet pre flop I removed that from his range. What did I do wrong in this hand? Help would be appreciated

you 2.5x UTG? I would raise 35-40cents. What person re-raised you? A nit, loose passive player?
It's hard to follw this hand but did you cbet 30% of the pot? and jamming the turn with over a pot sized bet is over betting.
Nothing wrong with cooling off with JJ and walking into KK but the main problem I see s your bet sizing. You should be raising pre flop bigger and cbetting the flop bigger, so you can jam the turn with at max a pot sized bet. The fact that you lost to kings is not important.

Jblocher1 said:

I removed KK and AA from his range.

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For starters... especially KK (a nit afraid of AA) - BTW I thought this before seeing the conclusion. He 3-bet you, remember.

You tried to be too specific with your ranging (thought he had AK? more like hoped he did). Key word is RANGE, not a specific hand. QQ was certainly in that range, along with KK, down to a pocket pair that matches the board, and yes, AK. You don't say what the flop was but also have to look for some possible coordination there.

No pot control with what almost amounts to a mid-pair and an overcard in his range (Q) on the turn provokes you to shove??? If he has QQ and the board is uncoordinated - yeah - he could very well check there.

I'm having a deja vu - was this on Carbon in the last 48 hours? I might of had that KK.

I believe it was Thursday night. If it was u then I just entirely and completely misread u but it happens it was a learning experience so thanks for that and actually it was you I remember the screen name

Jblocher1 said:

I believe it was Thursday night. If it was u then I just entirely and completely misread u but it happens it was a learning experience so thanks for that and actually it was you I remember the screen name

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Yeah well I played the hand pretty crappy myself = was half way tilt and in a diabetic stupor from snow day carbs. Had a "F' it" attitude and was calling everyone down.
I do remember preflop choosing to flat the 4-bet to keep the hand in action since I was more than likely way ahead. If an A comes out on the flop then I would kick myself in the ass - AGAIN. I am okay with that - but I for sure should have reraised the flop.
But pay attention to what you said here - "this queen was a dangerous card for me and I decided it was time to take the pot again because I didn't see any strength in his hand. I jammed for like 5 more dollars," A dangerous card comes out and you bet half a stack??? Which makes more sense, to put the pedal to the floor or to ease up on the gas when danger crosses the road?
JJ - pretty damn good hand preflop but after the flop it's just average and should not be an excuse to escalate a pot.

Yah but I didn't have a queen in ur range so I figured if u had a hand like pocket 10's I could get u off it, because ur flat call told me that u did not have a hand like KK AA I thought AK made absolute sense for the way u played it and the jam on the turn was to get u to release the ace high which was what I put u on.

MB if you're min 3betting UTG 2.5x with KK and flatting then not stacking pre then i'm very worried for you..

OMGITSOVER9K said:

MB if you're min 3betting UTG 2.5x with KK and flatting then not stacking pre then i'm very worried for you..

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hahahahahahahah.true that. but he did get maximum value.:captain::captain:

Yes he did because I assumed someone who understood the game would not be flatting and would have 4 bet me and I would have at that point folded.

What can I say - Diabetes is a bitch and I should not have even been playing poker. It's even worse if you've been getting your ass handed to you. Like I said - I did not play it well and haven't really played anything well the last couple of three weeks. Just doing stupid sh*t lately. I admit it.
And Spiros, I did not GET max value - it was handed to me - there's a difference. I certainly didn't earn it.
Um JB, QQ should have definitely been in the range. You may just be trying to get your ranges too narrow with not enough info (yet).

jblocher, dont 4bet fold JJ 100bb deep..

MB, regardless aren't you decent? if you're spewing then fine but as soon as you get past the point of min 3bets are retarded then you should never really go back..

I think thought processes in this hand need a bit of work though.

OMGITSOVER9K said:

jblocher, dont 4bet fold JJ 100bb deep..

MB, regardless aren't you decent? if you're spewing then fine but as soon as you get past the point of min 3bets are retarded then you should never really go back..

I think thought processes in this hand need a bit of work though.

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One word for ya - ketoacidosis