10NL JJ reraised all in on the Turn

full tilt poker Game #6771654577: Table Summerlin - $0.05/$0.10 - No Limit Hold'em - 15:27:14 ET - 2008/06/10
Seat 1: Richard7787 ($11.40)
Seat 2: iching64 ($29.55)
Seat 3: mich746 ($17.85)
Seat 4: Volante222 ($4.65)
Seat 5: baronnase1976 ($4.85)
Seat 6: willowroot ($10)
Seat 7: robj278 ($1.40)
Seat 8: Bidendum92 ($3.50)
Seat 9: 70 - 80 Volt ($8.75)
mich746 posts the small blind of $0.05
Volante222 has 5 seconds left to act
Volante222 posts the big blind of $0.10
The button is in seat #2
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Richard7787 [Jh Js]
baronnase1976 folds
willowroot calls $0.10
robj278 calls $0.10
Bidendum92 folds
70 - 80 Volt folds
Richard7787 raises to $0.55 <---- Strong enough bet I feel to make marginal hands fold. KQ KT AT QJ etc
iching64 folds
mich746 folds
Volante222 has 15 seconds left to act
Volante222 folds
willowroot has 15 seconds left to act
willowroot calls $0.45
robj278 folds
*** FLOP *** [Ts 2c Td]
willowroot checks
Richard7787 bets $1.35
willowroot calls $1.35 <--- Insta call. What can we make from this?
*** TURN *** [Ts 2c Td] [9s]
willowroot checks
Richard7787 bets $3.10
willowroot raises to $8.10, and is all in <--- what? No way he has Aces or Kings, he definatly did not have a better starting hand than me. Top 2 pair im sure is enough here, what do you guys think? Will post showdown later

Wouldn't be surprised to see a 10 here, or maybe a full house even.

before i answer, stats/reads????

He shoves and I'm thinking 10.

Or I'm thinking he wants me to think he has a 10.

Poker is so confusing.

we had both been playing pretty tight, here are his stats, played with this guy before and he is pretty solid, need to brush up on stats..so heres a screeny from my lowly PT V2

The way it's normally displayed, is that 6.6/3.5/1.3 ?

That's ULTRA tight, isn't it?

eh.. those are my stats for the session.. sorry! lol here are his Not a PC wiz!

Richard7787 said:

we had both been playing pretty tight, here are his stats, played with this guy before and he is pretty solid, need to brush up on stats..so heres a screeny from my lowly Poker Tracker V2

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I honestly don't see you ever being ahead here with those kind of stats.

Check behind on the turn. There aren't draws etc, and after he calls your c-bet you've got to be thinking you might very well be behind here.

I'd much rather see this hand played where you check behind on the turn then call a river bet from him.

Going to sleep will read in the morning thx for the input so far

man, he's a 10/5/.3, I don't think you are ever ahead here, I can't put him on a hand that he is doing this with that we beat tbh. I fold, since i can only imaging his range is a 10, 9's full, 2's full or over pairs

im thinkin he has 10 k suited

Super tight/Rock + check, insta calls flop bet on drawless board = check behind on the turn.

sliver101 said:

im thinkin he has 10 k suited

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Umm no, a 10/5 doesn't limp/call preflop with k,t, well at least i doubt it

wow, there is a 6.6/3.5/1.3 and a 10/5/.3 both at the same table at 10NL. That is hard to believe. Yea, Id say you are very very very rarely ahead here.

btw, do u usually play so tight??

Yeah I usually play really tight, I did have 4 tables up so that plays a part. Im approaching 5000 hands at 10NL and im 13/4.4/3.9 over that time, when I hit 7-10k I will post my full stats for some in depth analysis

I did not put him on a higher pocket pair, he would not have limped from early-mid position and even if he did he would have re-raised me PF for sure, My Range for him after the turn was AT (Loose call by his standards OOP) P9's 2's full, higher PP is in the back of my head by I just dont see it with his PF play, will let you all know what happened later.

Richard7787 said:

13/4.4/3.9

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Do you only raises big pairs or something??? You need to raise with position more, hands like suited connectors from the button etc, steal more to improve your profit rate, especially as you move up, since people will pick up how tight you are and not give you any action

Thanks Switch noted, as for this hand I laid it down and he said he had pocket nines, to be honest Ive no reason to think he was lying. nh. Guess he got lucky.

9's make sense tbf, good laydown