(10NL FR) TT on a baby flop donked into

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poker stars, $0.05/$0.10 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 8 Players
Hand History Converter by Stoxpoker

CO: $1.95 (19.5 bb)
BTN: $11.65 (116.5 bb)
SB: $11.75 (117.5 bb)
BB: $26.05 (260.5 bb)
UTG+1: $10.25 (102.5 bb)
Hero (MP1): $11.75 (117.5 bb)
MP2: $10 (100 bb)
MP3: $1.65 (16.5 bb)

Pre-Flop: Hero is MP1 with T T
UTG+1 calls $0.10, Hero raises to $0.50, 3 folds, BTN calls $0.50, SB folds, BB calls $0.40, UTG+1 calls $0.40

Flop: ($2.05) 6 2 4 (4 players)
BB checks, UTG+1 bets $1, Hero?

BB is 47/7/0,Donk bettor is 8/5/3 and BTN is 80/0/3 and im 27/27/inf but these stats are only for like 15 hands so pretty much there all unknown excepted BTN who we know is a fish.

Seeing he is UTG limper is this allways a set? or is 77-99 and Ax and FD big enough part of his range to jam it?

fwiw, I would have him on a flush draw tbh, i think re raise to $3 and if he shoves think you may have to let it go but think your in good shape on the flop.
Overpairs also could be in his range, and I have seen villians stack off with 77-99 here and also something like A6 they are wiling to stack with.

I See how he reacts from the 3bet and go from there.

Ok seems where thinking the same thing on the flop.


Flop: ($2.05) 6 2 4 (4 players)
BB checks, UTG+1 bets $1, Hero raises to $3, BTN folds, BB calls $3, UTG+1 calls $2

Turn: ($11.05) A (3 players)
BB checks, UTG+1 checks, Hero?
I have to check here, right?

IMO check, then see how he bets the river you now could be behind im tempted to check right down to the river or put in a small value bet on the river if its checked to you.

River: ($11.05) 9 (3 players)
BB checks, UTG+1 checks, Hero ?

Nine completes a back door FD so are we still value betting the river?
The pot is 11$ so are we just shoving here?

sindri_93 said:

River: ($11.05) 9

(3 players)
BB checks, UTG+1 checks, Hero ?

Nine completes a back door FD so are we still value betting the river?
The pot is 11$ so are we just shoving here?

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here it may seem weak but I just check the river or stick a $5 thin value bet in. I prefer to check just incase of the river/overpair check-raise. Thats how I would play it fwiw

Jurn8 said:

here it may seem weak but I just check the river or stick a $5 thin value bet in. I prefer to check just incase of the river/overpair check-raise. Thats how I would play it fwiw

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Ok thanks.
I checked behind and villains turned over 88 and 33.
Just wondering if i lost some value there.

I really like Jurn's idea of betting $5 on the river. It's a little thin but your aggressiveness means you could get paid off by worse quite often. Also, you might occasionally fold out JJ-QQ as UTG+1 seems like a nit.

I would definitely check here.

If villian is slow playing a set or overpair he will most likely call your value bet... or worse, if he hit his flush he will probably reraise.

If he is playing AX (which I doubt becuase he probably would have bet when the ace hit) he might lay it down to your value bet, but a call from him is still a possibility.


The only action you get from throwing out another bet is from someone who probably has you beat.

Getting reraised isn't terrible, imo, because it's an easy fold.

baudib1 said:

Getting reraised isn't terrible, imo, because it's an easy fold.

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If we bet 5$ and get re-raised arnt we committed?
We will have 3,25$ behind and the pot would be either 21$(11+5+5) or 16(11+5) and if UTG would raise us it would just be 1,75 to look him up.

sindri_93 said:

Ok thanks.
I checked behind and villains turned over 88 and 33.
Just wondering if i lost some value there.

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Difficult to say because you could have faced a raise. However difficult to say as im not great on value betting.

sindri_93 said:

If we bet 5$ and get re-raised arnt we committed?
We will have 3,25$ behind and the pot would be either 21$(11+5+5) or 16(11+5) and if UTG would raise us it would just be 1,75 to look him up.

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you're right, i didn't note starting stack sizes.

baudib1 said:

you're right, i didn't note starting stack sizes.

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So is there any way to value bet here with out beeing forced to call a shove?
Maby massivly underbet the pot and bet like 1-2$? but then again that might look weak and induce a shove..

or am i maybe just over thinking this hand?

Toad said:

I would definitely check here.

If villian is slow playing a set or overpair he will most likely call your value bet... or worse, if he hit his flush he will probably reraise.

If he is playing AX (which I doubt becuase he probably would have bet when the ace hit) he might lay it down to your value bet, but a call from him is still a possibility.


The only action you get from throwing out another bet is from someone who probably has you beat.

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Thats exactly the mindset that costs you tons of extra bets. They both checked. This after both checking on the turn, so its not like they checked to the raiser here.

Cobryn said:

Thats exactly the mindset that costs you tons of extra bets. They both checked. This after both checking on the turn, so its not like they checked to the raiser here.

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Don't get me wrong...I'm not against a good value bet.

It's just in this situation it doesnt seem right to me. What's his range? I know we dont have many hands on him, but if the stats are even close he is probably sitting on 66+,ATs+,KTs+,QJs,AJo+.

Villian's river bet feels like a c-bet to me, but he calls the raise so he must have something. The Ace hits on the turn and he checks it...personally if I have an AX hand here I bet it, but Ive seen plenty of players at this limit check raise with TPTK. The heart comes on the river so now he's scared of the flush. But is he scared enough to lay down a potentially strong hand to our smallish value bet? With the stack sizes I don't think we have enough to scare him off of AX or a set unless we push. And there are too many scary cards on the board for us to throw in extra money here.

I think Sindri played it right by checking it down. Of course, I havent been playing as much lately so take what I say with a grain of salt.