[10NL FR] Set, Played Correctly ??

Jurn8

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Here Villian is 23/0/0.75 over only 30 hands, so not really much information on him. Did I play this correctly, looking back on it I maybe should have checked the river aswell but I am not too sure ?

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poker stars, $0.05/$0.10 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 8 Players
Hand History Converter by Stoxpoker

UTG+1: $2.15 (21.5 bb)
MP1: $5.30 (53 bb)
MP2: $9.75 (97.5 bb)
MP3: $3.85 (38.5 bb)
Hero (CO): $11.50 (115 bb)
BTN: $10.60 (106 bb)
SB: $6.05 (60.5 bb)
BB: $6.15 (61.5 bb)

Pre-Flop: Hero is CO with J:spade: J:heart:
4 folds, Hero raises to $0.40, BTN folds, SB calls $0.35, BB folds

Flop: ($0.90) J:club: 3:club: 9:diamond: (2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $0.60, SB calls $0.60

Turn: ($2.10) 8:club: (2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $1, SB calls $1

River: ($4.10) Q:heart: (2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $2, SB raises to $4.05 and is all-in, Hero calls $2.05

Results:[spoil] $12.20 pot ($0.60 rake)
SB showed A:club: T:club: (a flush, Ace high) and won $11.60 ($5.55 net)
Hero mucked J:spade: J:heart: (three of a kind, Jacks) and lost (-$6.05 net)
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First read this: https://www.cardschat.com/forum/cas...p-posting-results-op-analysis-threads-136698/

I don't like your bet sizing here and ideally I'd like to get everything in on the turn. As played, not sure I like the river bet after he checks but that could certainly be the results skewing my judgment. :) That said he's 60BBs deep, not getting it in with a set, almost regardless of the board, is probably a mistake.
 
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yeah agreed on bet sizing WV, probs should be at $0.70 on the flop then $1.50 on the turn.

Thats why I need the proper bet pot AHK script as mine doesnt work lol
 
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I like the river bet actually. The Q didnt change too much except for hands with combo draws/pairs. Any ten usually either already made his hand by now except for a few 8T JT type hands. I think there is plenty of value there. Just make a note this check calls his nut flush draws then check calls check raises the nuts and move on.
 
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Main problem, imo is the bet sizing. He is short so it all should be in the middle on the turn. Also I don't suggest playing at a table with so many short stacks, unless that is just the way it is at 10nl

UTG+1: $2.15 (21.5 bb)
MP1: $5.30 (53 bb)
MP2: $9.75 (97.5 bb)
MP3: $3.85 (38.5 bb)
Hero (CO): $11.50 (115 bb)
BTN: $10.60 (106 bb)
SB: $6.05 (60.5 bb)
BB: $6.15 (61.5 bb)
 
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Why dont you want to play shortstacks? expecially the 60BB people. They are almost always terrible. Probably matters less at this level since most people are still learning but as you move up i am thrilled to find the 60BB table.

As for bet sizing, flop could be .70ish I guess, turn I probably pot with the draws out there but you knew all this, I just wanted to comment I think there is value betting the river here as plenty of 2 pair hands will show up.
 
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Why dont you want to play shortstacks? expecially the 60BB people. They are almost always terrible. Probably matters less at this level since most people are still learning but as you move up i am thrilled to find the 60BB table.

Then buy in with a short stack yourself and maximize your short stack strategy. I don't like it because often (I am guilty of this) when you buy in with a Full stack you can forget or lose track of short stacks and end up in bad positions by not adjusting to your opponents stack sizes correctly. also, there are plenty of fish willing to give you full stacks, why bother with the shorties if you don't have too ;)
 
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Main problem, imo is the bet sizing. He is short so it all should be in the middle on the turn. Also I don't suggest playing at a table with so many short stacks, unless that is just the way it is at 10nl

UTG+1: $2.15 (21.5 bb)
MP1: $5.30 (53 bb)
MP2: $9.75 (97.5 bb)
MP3: $3.85 (38.5 bb)
Hero (CO): $11.50 (115 bb)
BTN: $10.60 (106 bb)
SB: $6.05 (60.5 bb)
BB: $6.15 (61.5 bb)

IMO there are only 2 real short stacks others are just mid stacks as they arent <50BB.

Short stacks also dent our winrate mainly from stealing in late position because they are more likely to shove straight over the top of us.
 
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Why dont you want to play shortstacks? expecially the 60BB people. They are almost always terrible.

+1.

The 60BB fishes are usually even worse than the 100BB ones, although my absolute favorite are the 300BB short term lucky ones. :D

Shorstacks you should really avoid are the 20BB ones playing 7/7 or 8/8. Running into those is just like paying extra rake even if you play them perfectly. But you won't find them at 10nl.

About the hand OP posted: won't comment when results are included as it skews judgement. Sorry.
 
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