Originally Posted by c9h13no3
Why are we flatting a 4-bet with AK? We should be jamming this all in most of the time, because we're going to whiff the flop about 60% of the time. Flat a 4-bet with KK or AA, MAYBE queens & jacks, but I'm jamming AK oh so very often.
I'm ok with flatting the 4-bet here because we're in position, and it was a small 4-bet giving us great pot odds
. I don't even think shoving is more profitable than calling here. At these stakes and with the % of stack that the villain's already put in, I don't think you have much fold equity at all. If AQ or weaker isn't in his 4-betting range, then I think I prefer flat calling to shoving preflop. You may have a higher % to win from shoving, but you're also getting much worse pot odds and killing the implied odds from seeing a flop. I would argue those implied odds are very strong here because you're in position.
EDIT: I realized it might be a bit confusing to call it "implied odds". I'm not trying to say that you win more when you're best at showdown. I'm saying you win more relative to the amount you're risking to call than you do relative to the amount you're risking to shove. This is because you're making a multi-stage investment. You think the investment is good enough to call preflop, and then you can re-evaluate on the flop and bail out if the investment turns bad or put more money in if the investment looks good. In the shoving case, you're putting all the money in on an investment that looks ok but not great.