10nl FR AK on button

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Been at the table for about twenty minutes, Villan is 34/24/1.5 over about 60 hands against him. This was my first attempt at 8 tabling so I had not reloaded from losing the prev hand. My thoughts were that he put me on a button steal. Two hearts on the flop. What is my next move here.



poker stars, $0.05/$0.10 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 9 Players
Hand History Converter by Stoxpoker

UTG+1: $10.15 (101.5 bb)
MP1: $6 (60 bb)
MP2: $5.90 (59 bb)
MP3: $7.70 (77 bb)
CO: $13.50 (135 bb)
Hero (BTN): $8.10 (81 bb)
SB: $2.90 (29 bb)
BB: $13.90 (139 bb)
UTG: $6.40 (64 bb)

Pre-Flop: Hero is BTN with K
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MP1 posts BB out of position, UTG raises to $0.30, 3 folds, MP3 calls $0.30, CO folds, Hero raises to $1.20, 3 folds, MP3 calls $0.90

Flop: ($2.95) 4
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A
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8
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(2 players)
MP3 bets $1, Hero raises to $2.90, MP3 raises to $6.50 and is all-in, Hero ????.
 
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Call, you got exactly what you wanted with AK, he is most likely playing a bad Ace. You can autoreload in PS now so you might want to check that out.
 
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My guess is a bad ace as well or could be psycopathically chasing the flush draw possibly with the Ah.
Call!
 
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Didn't know we could autoreload on ps...see how great this forum is.
Thanks for the info.
 
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The only thing you are worried about here legitly is a set. You're ahead of everything else other than some funky combo draw. And you protected yourself from being set-mined by 3-betting (opponent wasn't getting odds to setmine). All of this leads to the following rule:

If you're 100 big blinds deep or less, you do not fold AK when you flop TPTK in a 3-bet pot.

Obviously there are some exceptions to this rule (if the flop was, say KQJ all hearts, and you had no hearts, you could consider folding), but the vast majority of the time, if you flop TPTK with AK in a 3-bet pot, you should have no qualms putting your stack in.

I also make my 3-bet a little bigger to ~$1.60ish, since you're squeezing 2 players.
 
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c9h13no3 said:
The only thing you are worried about here legitly is a set. You're ahead of everything else other than some funky combo draw. And you protected yourself from being set-mined by 3-betting (opponent wasn't getting odds to setmine). All of this leads to the following rule:

If you're 100 big blinds deep or less, you do not fold AK when you flop TPTK in a 3-bet pot.

Obviously there are some exceptions to this rule (if the flop was, say KQJ all hearts, and you had no hearts, you could consider folding), but the vast majority of the time, if you flop TPTK with AK in a 3-bet pot, you should have no qualms putting your stack in.

I also make my 3-bet a little bigger to ~$1.60ish, since you're squeezing 2 players.
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What this guy said!

I'm stacking %100 of the time here. Especially in a 3bet pot. Especially <100bb deep. Especially against that villain too :)
 
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So....after the sb,bb and raise and call there is 0.75 in the pot, so we want to raise double the pot plus a little with two other people in the pot? or are we just raising 5x the raise. Same type raise with a raiser and two callers or are we raising even more? Bet sizing makes me crazy:icon_scra
 
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Get betpot (or just use ftp's pot button for a bit) to get used to the raising amounts.

I think a good general rule for reraising/squeezing is to 3x your opponent's bet (plus a little), plus 1x for every caller. Very general of course. Your 1.20 wasn't bad or anything, I think it's fine actually.
 
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He probably has an ace-8s or a set but i don't know how your going to get away from this hand. sometimes you wanna fold hands like this and let them think they can bully you around a little wait for a hand where you ave to pair or better before you get your money in the middle. i lose a lot of money with ace king on stars to crap hands like ace 8 them calling my preflop raise with junk and flopping two pair. it happens all to ofton. i really think your beat here. sometimes like i said its worth folding a couple of nice hands to catch a nut hand and smash the fishys head against the rock after you get him hook check line check and sinker all in!!!!
 
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Sardonix said:
He probably has an ace-8s or a set but i don't know how your going to get away from this hand. sometimes you wanna fold hands like this and let them think they can bully you around a little wait for a hand where you ave to pair or better before you get your money in the middle. i lose a lot of money with ace king on stars to crap hands like ace 8 them calling my preflop raise with junk and flopping two pair. it happens all to ofton. i really think your beat here. sometimes like i said its worth folding a couple of nice hands to catch a nut hand and smash the fishys head against the rock after you get him hook check line check and sinker all in!!!!
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What, you fold a likely best hand to let them think they can push you around? Did I read that right? In what universe is this a profitable strategy? Sorry maybe I am misunderstanding you but if you are seriosly saying to fold a hand that likely good against a vilians range, I am calling bs.
 
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I also had that opinion of stars for a while, but after moving over and making it my primary site, I really like it. (Maybe 'cause I'm the sucker outer, not the one getting sucked out on...lol) I think I had to take a stab at the pot, leading out, but maybe being oop I should have checked? and re-evaluated?
 
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ChuckTs said:
Get betpot (or just use ftp's pot button for a bit) to get used to the raising amounts.

I think a good general rule for reraising/squeezing is to 3x your opponent's bet (plus a little), plus 1x for every caller. Very general of course. Your 1.20 wasn't bad or anything, I think it's fine actually.
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I like to 3-bet larger than pot at microstakes, since opponents so frequently call with total junk they shouldn't & our edge is very large here with AK.
 
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yeah that's obviously fine. Just wanted to let him know there's nothing really wrong with his raise.
 
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