10nl: Flopped 2nd nut flush, outdrawn

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pokerstars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.10 BB (9 handed)

saw flop | saw showdown

Hero (BB) ($11.25)
UTG ($12.40)
UTG+1 ($9.85)
MP1 ($10.10)
MP2 ($9.70)
MP3 ($4.35)
CO ($9.85)
Button ($10.15)
SB ($5.30)

Preflop: Hero is BB with Q
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, J
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2 folds, MP1 calls $0.10, 3 folds, Button raises to $0.45, 1 fold, Hero calls $0.35, MP1 calls $0.35

Flop: ($1.40) 5
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, K
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, 2
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(3 players)
Hero checks, MP1 bets $0.80, Button calls $0.80, Hero calls $0.80

Turn: ($3.80) 8
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(3 players)
Hero checks, MP1 bets $0.80, Button calls $0.80, Hero calls $0.80

River: ($6.20) 2
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(3 players)
Hero checks, MP1 bets $1.20, Button raises to $6, Hero raises to $9.20 (All-In), MP1 calls $6.85 (All-In), Button calls $2.10 (All-In)

Total pot: $30.45 | Rake: $1.50
Main pot: $30.45 between Hero and Button, won by Button

Results in white below:
Button had K
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, K
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(full house, Kings over twos).
Hero had Q
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, J
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(flush, King high).
MP1 mucked 5
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, 5
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(full house, fives over twos).
Outcome: Button won $28.95


Did I let them outdraw me ? Should I raise on turn for instance.
Or did I just get unlucky ?
 
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AWWEEEE SWEET JAYZUS. LAY YO' hands UPON 'DIS POOR SOUL, AND HEEEEL HIS POKAH GAME! CUZ IF HE AIN'T RAIZIN' 'DIS FLOP, SOMETIN' IS SHO AWEFUL WRONG WIT HIS POKAH GAME!

When another spade rolls off the deck, do you think they're EVER paying you? Do you think players will get all in with a set, the ace of spades, lower flushes, or AK? STOP SLOW PLAYING AND MAKE SOME MONEY FFS!


CAPS!!!! :D

P.S. - Since everyone is being ultra sensitive these days, I meant you no disrespect.
 
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AWWEEEE SWEET JAYZUS. LAY YO' HANDS UPON 'DIS POOR SOUL, AND HEEEEL HIS POKAH GAME! CUZ IF HE AIN'T RAIZIN' 'DIS FLOP, SOMETIN' IS SHO AWEFUL WRONG WIT HIS POKAH GAME!

When another spade rolls off the deck, do you think they're EVER paying you? Do you think players will get all in with a set, the ace of spades, lower flushes, or AK? STOP SLOW PLAYING AND MAKE SOME MONEY FFS!


CAPS!!!! :D

P.S. - Since everyone is being ultra sensitive these days, I meant you no disrespect.

Point taken.

Obv my game is not so great, that's why I'm posting here.
So if I raise the flop, and get reraised. Should I be happy getting it in ?
Should I be scared of A high flush or is it the chance of them flopping the nut flush too remote ?

BTW: You worded that advice awesomely and to perfection :D
 
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Should I be happy getting it in ?
Should I be scared of A high flush or is it the chance of them flopping the nut flush too remote ?
If you ever flop a flush, get all in every time. Maybe if you were 250 bb's deep against nits, you can consider folding.

The odds of flopping set under set is really tiny, and you should lose your stack if that ever happens. Flopping flush under flush is an even more remote possibility, and if you stack off every time that happens, it still won't affect your win rate that much.

Don't make big folds at micro limits. Finding places to fold big hands is a horrible way to improve your game. Instead, improve other parts of it that actually need work.
 
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If you ever flop a flush, get all in every time. Maybe if you were 250 bb's deep against nits, you can consider folding.

The odds of flopping set under set is really tiny, and you should lose your stack if that ever happens. Flopping flush under flush is an even more remote possibility, and if you stack off every time that happens, it still won't affect your win rate that much.

Don't make big folds at micro limits. Finding places to fold big hands is a horrible way to improve your game. Instead, improve other parts of it that actually need work.

OK, thanks for all the advice, appreciate it.
And I certainly don't make big folds. If anything I stack off too lightly where the chance of me being beat is a big one most of the time :(
 
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