[10NL] 88 Pre Flop + Flop Actions????

Jurn8

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Here I don't have any real stats on villian. This is within the first 10 hands of my 10NL experience.
Is my call before the flop ok and whats my line on the flop when he shoves into me ??

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HAND #1
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poker stars, $0.05/$0.10 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 8 Players
Hand History Converter by Stoxpoker

MP1: $5.45 (54.5 bb)
MP2: $13.95 (139.5 bb)
MP3: $2 (20 bb)
CO: $10.75 (107.5 bb)
BTN: $10.30 (103 bb)
Hero (SB): $10.20 (102 bb)
BB: $9.90 (99 bb)
UTG+1: $7.15 (71.5 bb)

Pre-Flop: Hero is SB with 8:club: 8:diamond:
6 folds, Hero raises to $0.40, BB raises to $1.20, Hero calls $0.80

Flop: ($2.40) 5:heart: 3:diamond: 2:heart: (2 players)
Hero bets $1.80, BB raises to $8.70 and is all-in, Hero ??????????????

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Richyl2008

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Without reads here I'm folding to the shove. Not really much you can do here
 
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skoucail

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Think it depends on how the BB was playing before, for moment he should have 3 of a kind to beat your pair,
ofc if he has 2
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on his hand he can go with a flush draw, but still its very strange play of the BB so i think he just wanted you to fold.
Hard call but think i would fold him as there still 2 cards to come and he can hit a higher pair.
 
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baudib1

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This is a standard fold. Unless you have a good read that he can be 3-betting you with 77/66 or A5/KQ or something, your hand's not good enough to take this kind of action. We are a big underdog to something like AhKh and of course, all bigger pairs.
 
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Paul_G

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This is an easy fold imo. You don't know anything about the bb, the board is drawy - he could have anything in the bb, he's shown a willingess to heavily get into the pot, he has position.

Just out of interest, can i ask why you raised with your 88? We're you just testing the water to see if he'd show resistence for future bets and decided to do it with some kind of hand? Being an unknown opponent)

The reason I'm asking, is because you called his raise. What flop were you hoping to see out of position with 88 in the SB. Most flops there would make it really difficult for you out of position against an unknown. Because of your raise, your possible future c-bet would also be more expensive...

Could you not of checked to see the flop, and hoped to spike an 8 for example. That way if he did raise your check and you called to see the flop, the pot would possibly be smaller...

I try to play as little as possible out of the SB, or as cheap as possible in general unless I'm trying something a bit different for deception or have a v good hand...
 
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