10nl 6max 3bet pot AK wet board

Villain is 26/20/2.2 over 100 hands and seems pretty solid.

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saw flop | saw showdown

CO ($11.10)
Button ($9.40)
SB ($10.90)
Hero (BB) ($18.30)
UTG ($6.95)
MP ($10)

Preflop: Hero is BB with A , K
UTG calls $0.10, 2 folds, Button calls $0.10, SB raises to $0.50, Hero raises to $1.70, 2 folds, SB calls $1.20

Flop: ($3.60) 8 , A , 6 (2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $2.70, SB calls $2.70

Turn: ($9) Q (2 players)
SB checks, Hero checks

River: ($9) Q (2 players)
SB bets $6.50 (All-In), Hero folds


pretty standard?

No, not standard. Call the river. You're getting a good price in a 3-bet pot, and your kicker still plays. Plus, QQ & AQ just got really unlikely. And last but not least, you under-repped your hand by checking the turn (that's the whole reason you checked the turn right?).

And I'd like your turn line a lot better if we had a diamond, but as is, I think we need to just cram it in.

I'm betting at least the pot on the flop, not sure why you're betting only 2/3 of the pot? I'm also bet/folding the turn, and taking the free showdown on the river with position. As played, I think you have to fold the river.

Sysvr4 said:

I'm betting at least the pot on the flop, not sure why you're betting only 2/3 of the pot? I'm also bet/folding the turn in hopes of getting a free showdown on the river with position. As played, I think you have to fold the river.

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You want to c-bet less in 3-bet pots. As we played it, villain doesn't even have a pot-sized bet left. Thus I think his bet-sizing is fine.

We can't bet/fold the turn given how much $ is in the pot. And putting that much $ in early makes folding later in the hand pretty criminal. If villain set-mined/flush-mined in a 3-bet pot, it will never be profitable in the long run for him, even if we pay him off with our stack here.

Once you 3bet pf here and flop tptk, your committed. How you go about getting the money in here maybe different. I'd probably go ahead and stick the money in on the turn because I don't want another diamond rolling off on the river. If you decide to check the turn your not doing it for pot control, but because he might spazz shove with something like AJ or JJ

c9h13no3 said:

You want to c-bet less in 3-bet pots. As we played it, villain doesn't even have a pot-sized bet left. Thus I think his bet-sizing is fine.

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We're giving villain better than 2-1 on his draw and considerably better implied odds. I maintain that shutting this villain out with a vulnerable hand like TPTK is the better play.

We can't bet/fold the turn given how much $ is in the pot. And putting that much $ in early makes folding later in the hand pretty criminal. If villain set-mined/flush-mined in a 3-bet pot, it will never be profitable in the long run for him, even if we pay him off with our stack here.

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You're right, I overlooked villain's remaining stack size. But don't think for a minute villain considers whether his play is profitable long term

If we're committed on the flop, what's the argument against simply shoving there?

What I see is basically the typical steal from the villain at this limit. You 3 bet pre flop, then cbet the flop, and then showed weakness on the turn.

10NL is basically where I'm at in the learning process and what I keep hearing is to raise with good hands pre flop, cbet whiffs on the flop, and then back off if called or run into resistance. So I'm guessing that villain is making a play at stealing this pot without a showdown. You almost have to call here.

Sysvr4 said:

We're giving villain better than 2-1 on his draw and considerably better implied odds. I maintain that shutting this villain out with a vulnerable hand like TPTK is the better play.

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There's a lot less draws in villain's range in a 3-bet pot. Most of villain's range is either drawing to 3-5 outs, or has us crushed. It will be incorrect for villain to call with that range even if we bet half pot.

Sysvr4 said:

If we're committed on the flop, what's the argument against simply shoving there?

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We're trying to get called by worse? You know that whole "get value" thing.