[100nl FR] AK vs big positional raise

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Villain is a 12/5/4 over 2800 hands, and the two limpers are basically fish. Not sure how often he raises limpers, but this is definitely an unusual raise for him.

Poker Stars, $0.50/$1 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 8 Players
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CO: $64.40
BTN: $376.05
SB: $33.90
Hero (BB): $102.50
UTG: $19
UTG+1: $169.15
MP1: $184.10
MP2: $101.70

Pre-Flop: A
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K
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dealt to Hero (BB)
UTG calls $1, UTG+1 calls $1, 3 folds, BTN raises to $10, SB folds, Hero ...
 
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fold. you have no idea where your at and will be OOP post flop which just makes the hand to hard to play.
 
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Being out of position and with his stats over a pretty significant sample, I'd fold this every time.
 
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Folding AK pf to a raise seems incredibly weak. I'm guessing 12/5/4 in FR is not particularly nitty? He could have a range of TT+, KQ, AQ+, which we're 40/60 behind. Hmm, I don't mind the fold, but tbh I rarely see this in 6max so I'm looking to 3 bet here a lot of the time.
 
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according to poker stove his pf raising range is 99+,AJs+,KQs,AKo.

which means we have 46% equity here. So we are sligtly behind in the equity department so fold is matmatically correct. If you think you can out play villian postflop whilst being OOP then a call isnt overly bad.
 
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I'd fold like a... well... something that folds.
 
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I think that calling is the worst of our three options. We would be OOP, and still have no idea where we stood in this particular hand (other than knowing we are slightly behind his range). I would lean towards a fold based on his stats, but the only other play would be to three bet this to force him to define his hand, and maybe take it down preflop. But his bet size really makes me think he doesn't want to see a flop and is on something like JJ, and doesn't mind just dragging the blinds.
 
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according to poker stove his pf raising range is 99+,AJs+,KQs,AKo.

which means we have 46% equity here. So we are sligtly behind in the equity department so fold is matmatically correct. If you think you can out play villian postflop whilst being OOP then a call isnt overly bad.

And his range is probably a little tighter considering he's really not the type to squeeze and that he's raising so much.

I ended up 3-betting, committing myself to calling his push, and he showed AA which held. After taking a simple look at his numbers it becomes a clear fold but in-game I didn't have the time...live and learn.
 
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He made a weird overbet, 10x BB, a normal raise here would be like 5x bb. If he raised 5x or so I'd reraise or call preflop.
 
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Not really that much of an overbet. He raised a little less that 3x the current pot ($3.50).
 
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I think I can raise to like $25 and fold to a shove vs these numbers.
 
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That was another option. I actually really like it too.

Something I've thought a lot about is 4-bet sizing and balance. I realize this is a 3-bet but it's close enough since he's raising so much that it pretty much reaches the sizing of a 3-bet, and my actual 3-bet reaches the size of a 4-bet.

Anyways what I'm getting at is that we can provide ourselves with some really nice balance by 4-betting smaller. When we have lesser hands (see AK, others) in spots like these, we want to give ourselves room to get out of the way (hence raising to 25), and since, with 100bbs, we're never giving 'good' odds to our opponent with a 4-bet, we can still make that small 25bb raise and get value while still charging our opponent.

Against an unknown or a 'bad' opponent I won't even bother since balance doesn't matter with them, but against the decent regulars it's something that I'm looking at trying.
 
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